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#1
10-10-2007, 10:16 PM
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Some hands of stud8
I had a sick run of cards at the HORSE tables recently, making almost sixty big bets in about an hour (two-tabling).
Here are two of the last hands that i got dealt. I'd like to know if I'm betting at the right times, or if I should have played somewhat differently. What do you think? HORSE - 7 Card Stud High-Low ($0,50/$1,00), Ante $0,05, Bring-In $0,25 (converter) 3rd Street - (0.80 SB) Seat 1: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls Seat 3: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 4: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Seat 5: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls 4th Street - (4.80 SB) Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls Seat 5: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls 5th Street - (4.40 BB) Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls Seat 5: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___calls Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises 6th Street - (12.40 BB) Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls Seat 5: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls River - (16.40 BB) Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___folds Seat 5: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___calls Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___calls Total pot: (19.40 BB) HORSE - 7 Card Stud High-Low ($0,50/$1,00), Ante $0,05, Bring-In $0,25 (converter) 3rd Street - (0.80 SB) Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls Seat 4: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Seat 6: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises 4th Street - (4.80 SB) Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets 5th Street - (4.40 BB) Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks 6th Street - (4.40 BB) Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls River - (7.40 BB) Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___checks___folds Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___raises Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___raises___calls Total pot: (13.40 BB) After rereading the stud section in SS1 and the posts in this forum, I think I've gotten a little better at getting away from trap hands. I still think I donk it up a bit now and then, but I hope to eliminate some of those bad plays soon. 
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#2
10-10-2007, 10:19 PM
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Re: Some hands of stud8
hand one looks perfect,
hand two, although your hand is not great you got to bet it because the jack will check more often than not. Just hope he calls and the rest call along
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#4
10-10-2007, 10:40 PM
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Re: Some hands of stud8
Yeah that makes sense. I considered betting for exactly that reason, but I guess I got a little too passive there. I thought my hand had little scoop potential, but I catched very good on the latter streets.
The only street I was unsure about in the first hand was fifth street. I figured that I should bet in an attempt to force out the players that might be trying to get a high hand. It didn't really work out, but I guess my hand still has a nice equity there. Would you consider three-betting there, or is it likely that my hand is too far behind in both directions to make that play profitable? I actually made up some possible hands for my opponents at fifth street. It seems like my EV is so good that I should probably just jam the pot: pokenum -mc 500000 -7s8 2d 4s as 6c 6h - 2s 7d 3c 5h 8d - qs td ts 9s ad - ah 8h 7c kc 3h / 4c tc 9d 9h 7-card Stud Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled outcomes cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV As 4s 6c 2d 6h 44104 135585 364415 0 237438 36717 53 0.373 2s 3c 8d 7d 5h 11525 32140 467860 0 183103 316516 381 0.215 Qs Ts 9s Ad Td 0 255591 244409 0 0 0 0 0.256 Kc 7c Ah 8h 3h 5701 76684 423316 0 79078 195159 328 0.156
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