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Old 04-13-2006, 04:59 PM
leehrat leehrat is offline
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grunch are all of your continuation bets 100% of the pot?

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Yes.

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wow. do you think that that's +EV even at the party micro-limits?
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: Value Bet TPTK??

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very rarely find a situation where a bet less than full pot is right.


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I don't think I have been betting a psb on the flop every time. Most of my opponents are so bad that I don't want them to fold so if I think betting $4 into a $6 pot will keep them in then thats what I bet. I would think a flush draw is calling either bet, but I could be wrong. I will have to look into this more.
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:01 PM
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grunch are all of your continuation bets 100% of the pot?

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Yes.

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I should clarify that this and the advice to always pot flop is for NL25 & NL50. Mostly true at NL100, but opponent dependant. Above that, things start to change & I'll make smaller flop bets more frequently.
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:02 PM
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grunch are all of your continuation bets 100% of the pot?

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Yes.

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Grunch [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Bet Pot button [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:03 PM
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Grunch [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Bet Pot button


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what site offers that, it sure would be nice to have.
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:04 PM
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Grunch [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Bet Pot button


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what site offers that, it sure would be nice to have.

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FT and UB
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:04 PM
Grunch Grunch is offline
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Default Re: Value Bet TPTK??

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grunch are all of your continuation bets 100% of the pot?

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Yes.

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wow. do you think that that's +EV even at the party micro-limits?

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Yes (see my disclaimer above), for 2 reasons. Smaller bets have no FE against the weakest of draws, and the most marginal of made hands will call the full pot. So whether I have a made hand, AK UI, or nothing at all, if I bet at the low limits, its full pot. Every single time.

I'm open to arguments.
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:09 PM
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x=FT has a bet pot button.

y=It also has a greater % of weaktight opponents than other sites do

z=I CB a lot >98% of my CB's are PSB ($50NL)

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Old 04-13-2006, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Value Bet TPTK??

With full pot cont.-bets you need to win slightly over 50% of the time to be profitable. If you are finding that you win less than 50% of the time after making a pot sized c-bet, then full sized pot bets aren't profitable for you.
Is there a way to filter Poker Tracker to see what your win% is on flop bets with less than 1 pair?
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Value Bet TPTK??

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With full pot cont.-bets you need to win slightly over 50% of the time to be profitable. If you are finding that you win less than 50% of the time after making a pot sized c-bet, then full sized pot bets aren't profitable for you.
Is there a way to filter Poker Tracker to see what your win% is on flop bets with less than 1 pair?
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I don't make CBs in situations where I think it's -EV to do so. Even if I was the PFR.

I know it's popular here to make CBs 100% of the time when you were the PFR, but I say bah. If you flopped no hand + no draw & you intend to CB, it must be for FE. If you don't have FE, then it's just foolish to CB. If you are in a multiway situation and didn't flop a made hand, CBing quickly becomes very foolish.

People CB too much.
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