Value Bet TPTK??

[leehrat]

villain showed me 3s 5s and MHING

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villain showed me 3s 5s and MHING

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This is a good example of why you didn't bet enough on the flop.

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villain showed me 3s 5s and MHING

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you played it fine, villian played it bad. it was still a good value bet on the river.

[leehrat]

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villain showed me 3s 5s and MHING

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This is a good example of why you didn't bet enough on the flop.

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my c-bets are consistently ~75% of the flop

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villain showed me 3s 5s and MHING

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you played it fine, villian played it bad. it was still a good value bet on the river.

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I disagree. IMO the size of the flop bet was a major error. the 2/3 PSB on the flop gave weak draws better implied odds to come along. Flop bets need to be bigger. You can make turn bets smaller when your equity goes up.

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You can make turn bets smaller when your equity goes up.



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good point, so if there were no draws on the flop, would the flop bet be ok?

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You can make turn bets smaller when your equity goes up.



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good point, so if there were no draws on the flop, would the flop bet be ok?

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Off the top of my head I don't think it's possible for hero to flop TP Jacks and there to not be any draws on board. If there were only a gutshot I still don't like it. It's probably not terrible, but I'd still go full pot.

I very rarely find a situation where a bet less than full pot is right.

[dd323]

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villain showed me 3s 5s and MHING

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you played it fine, villian played it bad. it was still a good value bet on the river.

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I disagree. IMO the size of the flop bet was a major error. the 2/3 PSB on the flop gave weak draws better implied odds to come along. Flop bets need to be bigger. You can make turn bets smaller when your equity goes up.

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In this particular situation with this type of villian I agree.

However, in general I disagree with this, by making bigger flop bets you lose value when you are ahead and you certainly lose a lot more when someone out flops you. And worst of all, most of the time when I am betting on the flop it is a continuation bet and I don't have much of anything, so it certainly costs you more there.

[leehrat]

grunch are all of your continuation bets 100% of the pot?

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grunch are all of your continuation bets 100% of the pot?

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Yes.