Spots we rarely think about

[WHITEBOYAEHS]

i cbet then give up...thedustbustr i dont understand why you would fold a +ev hand on the button, just not worth it? i respect your carpal tunnelness tho...im not trying to flame

[carrotsnake]

dust, wow, thats all I can say

evg, I think its more profitable against most people to use the fact that they are folding this flop to much rather than check it. People give up the flop HU a lot at lower limits when they shouldn't/should profitably bluff raise

[n1nj4.br]

Cbet, its for value+protect, since we are ahead of his range and he is rarely c/r bluffing us.

[mason55]

i'm much more likely to check with A5ss than i am with black deuces

[0evg0]

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dust, wow, thats all I can say

evg, I think its more profitable against most people to use the fact that they are folding this flop to much rather than check it. People give up the flop HU a lot at lower limits when they shouldn't/should profitably bluff raise

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if they have a decent 3betting range we are behind their coldcalling range now, and even when we are ahead we can't stand 2 barrels. i mean, i cbet here sometimes just for shania and because it's kinda close, but in a vacuum this is a check

and wtf at folding preflop? are you joking?

i don't even know what to say to that. even considering that demonstrates such a fundamental ignorance of general poker theory

[Isura]

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check

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yup, this is my default. I'd love to hear more elaboration.

[thedustbustr]

for starters, people are defaulting to checking it here. which means we're allowing a flip.

[0evg0]

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check

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yup, this is my default. I'd love to hear more elaboration.

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someone with a normal 3betting range has an equally defined coldcalling range and that coldcalling range doesn't have nearly enough unpaired hands (and when they are unpaired, they still often have either an OESD or an FD)

so, our hand does not have positive equity vs their range. and we're not bluffing out worse hands. so check.

[0evg0]

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for starters, people are defaulting to checking it here. which means we're allowing a flip.

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ummm

you dont think the fact that the board is 578ss matters?

because we check with 22 on this flop we're checking behind on all non-2 flops? that's a stupid conclusion to jump to.

[Unknown Soldier]

quite a few turn cards make this a good board to double or triple barrel on aswell. That adds merits to betting this flop. Depending on villain obv