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Old 04-22-2007, 03:37 PM
The Mayo The Mayo is offline
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Default 25NL Stars - T9s flops top two pair in 3 way pot, drawy board.

Reads: SB rarely shuts down after betting flop, no reads on BB.

Is there any viable option other than shoving? I considered calling and letting SB bet the turn, but then thought that was too dangerous on such a drawy board. At the same time, I want to get value from my hand. What's the correct line here?



Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">SB: $11</font>
<u>BB: $12.80</u>
UTG: $6.70
MP: $23.35
CO: $24.65
<u>HERO (BTN): $97.95</u>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> HERO is dealt 9 T (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">HERO raises to $1</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.75</font>, BB calls $1.50, HERO calls $0.75

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($5.25) 9 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1</font>, BB calls $1, <font color="red">HERO ? </font>
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Old 04-22-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: 25NL Stars - T9s flops top two pair in 3 way pot, drawy board.

Hero raises to $8 and owns both of the shortstack idiots. (It's basically shoving but it looks easier to call)
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Old 04-22-2007, 03:44 PM
MayK MayK is offline
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Default Re: 25NL Stars - T9s flops top two pair in 3 way pot, drawy board.

I think a push is all right here with those 2 little stack in there


My guess is that Sb got a big hand like KK or AA alot of donk usaly min raise with hand like that and i think that BB is on a draw.
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Old 04-22-2007, 04:15 PM
evil_ronnie evil_ronnie is offline
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Default Re: 25NL Stars - T9s flops top two pair in 3 way pot, drawy board.

Yes seems like an easy shove against two short stacks. Thac could you explain why you would only raise to 8?
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Old 04-22-2007, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: 25NL Stars - T9s flops top two pair in 3 way pot, drawy board.

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Yes seems like an easy shove against two short stacks. Thac could you explain why you would only raise to 8?

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There's something that seems .. easier in the mind of donkeys about not calling off ALL their chips. It's hard to explain. They think they're gonna have money left after calling the bet (lol shutting down on the turn bla bla), and it just seems that in the past, smaller bets have been called more often than shoves (maybe they just didn't have hands when I shoved)
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Old 04-22-2007, 09:08 PM
Das Budrick Das Budrick is offline
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Default Re: 25NL Stars - T9s flops top two pair in 3 way pot, drawy board.

i like thac's line of betting MOST of villains' stacks or shoving is good too but you really shouldnt slowplay this or wait until the turn to make a move.
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Old 04-22-2007, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: 25NL Stars - T9s flops top two pair in 3 way pot, drawy board.

I like betting most of a shortstack's stack when I want them all-in as well; seems to be have good results, though I don't have enough hands in my database to really study the difference between that and a shove.
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