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Old 04-13-2006, 04:42 PM
Grunch Grunch is offline
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Default Re: Does anyone fold KK here?

Maybe this is just my soapbox today, but I don't like the size of the flop bet. Given stacks, I'm either open-pushing (and rooting for a call) or check-calling/pushing here.

I can see how the $11 flop bet might be OK given circumstances, but my basic reaction is that it's not OK.
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:01 PM
Berge20 Berge20 is offline
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Default Re: Does anyone fold KK here?

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villain had a 10 and i took it in the ass, my luckbox is broken right now.

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Where I play you'd simply lose a buy-in. You might want to consider changing sites.

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nh
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:02 PM
Dbadbeats Dbadbeats is offline
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Default Re: Does anyone fold KK here?

He is making a big bet to get you off what he percieves as a flush draw. The 11 bet probably makes him think that you are on a draw which is why he goes all in. He wants to punish you for a draw. Tough hand but I think you can get away from it after the raise.
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone fold KK here?

flop would have to be drier for me to make this fold. way too many draws possible that villain could push in with
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone fold KK here?

standard.
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone fold KK here?

Generally I would call here since u r getting good money odds.
The problem as I see it is the fact that MP minraised on the flop. This is a strong indication of a hand like jtensuited or qtensuited that is trying to increase the size of the pot to make good draw odds. I think MP is highly like to have the ten or else have 89 of diamonds in which case ur about even anyway. This hand is like getting a 15 in blackjack when the dealer shows ten. Ur probably going to lose some money and theres nothing u can do about it except fold on the flop or hope ur opponent is pushing with pocket queens or 89 of diamonds
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