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Old 07-22-2007, 01:55 PM
jordiepop jordiepop is offline
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Default qq hand turn check raise...

no real reads on villian. i feel like im only beating at or jj but so many times i see villains show up with [censored] here. do u fold to the push

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $205
UTG+1: $224.75
CO: $67.95
Hero: $251.65
SB: $226.80
BB: $255.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($35, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $28</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($91, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $66</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises all-in $179.75</font>, Hero ?
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Old 07-22-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: qq hand turn check raise...

tough.. but yeah I fold.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: qq hand turn check raise...

Baluga theorem = fold.

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Old 07-22-2007, 04:23 PM
Capone Capone is offline
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Default Re: qq hand turn check raise...

Tough spot for sure. We have to give him credit for something if he bet in ep pf, and called your 3 bet. Then he called your flop bet, and c/r you on the turn.

What can we put him on here? AA, KK, A10 is unlikely do you really think he would call a 3-bet with it PF, but we can't make assumptions readless. AKs clubs maybe?

I'd like to hear other opinions but this looks like a fold to me. Yeh Baluga theorem says fold.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:24 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: qq hand turn check raise...

I would have checked the turn if I didn't want to call a shove, in gneeral.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: qq hand turn check raise...

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I would have checked the turn if I didn't want to call a shove, in gneeral.

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Good point jam.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: qq hand turn check raise...

Do you think its a call then?
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: qq hand turn check raise...

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I would have checked the turn if I didn't want to call a shove, in gneeral.

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Yeah I like checking it back here a lot and throwing out a value-bet if he checks the river.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:43 PM
MrHorace MrHorace is offline
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I would have checked the turn if I didn't want to call a shove, in gneeral.

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Would you not have been concerned with fact that now villain has outs to flush draw? Or are we not so concerned with the runner-runner flush??
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: qq hand turn check raise...

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I would have checked the turn if I didn't want to call a shove, in gneeral.

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Would you not have been concerned with fact that now villain has outs to flush draw? Or are we not so concerned with the runner-runner flush??

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The draw wasnt there on the flop so 2 clubs is unlikely.
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