Hate shortstackers? Enjoy 50bb minimum-buyin games? Help Negreanu / PS - Page 2

cbloom · #11 09-13-2007, 12:50 AM

This is so rad, everyone on 2+2 really needs to get on this and make this happen.

LET US GOGOGOGOGO

jman220 · #12 09-13-2007, 07:18 AM

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You guys barely play any hands so you aren't exactly the ideal players for a poker site.

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Also, blind steals aren't raked.

ImsaKidd · #13 09-13-2007, 10:15 AM

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You guys barely play any hands so you aren't exactly the ideal players for a poker site.

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Also, blind steals aren't raked.

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I think you are confusing us with grimstarr.

ImsaKidd · #14 09-13-2007, 10:15 AM

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10BB min buyins please Scotty

you'd get more of my play like OnGame and Prima

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You guys barely play any hands so you aren't exactly the ideal players for a poker site. You promote tight action and are bad for the games. If stars ever goes to 10bb they can say bye to me and a ton of other players.

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I play 50,000 hands a month, which ends up being like $5k in rake/month for Stars.

deepdowntruth · #15 09-13-2007, 10:48 AM

50BB is no harder than 20BB.

ycjason · #16 09-13-2007, 11:44 AM

50bb should be good for the site too, uncalled allin PF does not get raked right? That happens a lot more with 20bb than 50bb

iceman5 · #17 09-13-2007, 12:09 PM

All of you guys complaining are still playing at Stars and everywhere else with the structure the way it is now. Youre not going to stop.

Alot of the guys who buy in short are going to stop playing if the minimum buy in gets raised. Thats all that these poker sites care about. If they raise the minimum they will have less players.

99% of them suck anyway. They win some money and then move up to higher stakes and buy in short because they are scared. Then they donate it right back. Why worry about it? How many good shortstackers are there? 4?

jono · #18 09-13-2007, 12:20 PM

it doesn't matter if they suck or not. The problem is the unethical ratholing

iceman5 · #19 09-13-2007, 12:24 PM

So you dont care if they give you money all day long because it pisses you off that they are unethical?

You' d rather struggle with good players as long as they are ethical?

PS...Since the vast majority of them suck, what exactly are they ratholing? They are bleeding money. They might take it off one table but they give it right back and then some on another table. Their money is going into the poker economy, they are not taking money out of it.

deepdowntruth · #20 09-13-2007, 01:11 PM

IMO, as long as one stays within the site's T&Cs why should anything one does be considered unethical? If my being ethical means that I have to ensure that YOU can win...well...that's not what it means. SSers break no rules of the site. End of story.

And frankly, the decisions for 50BB aren't substantially more difficult than those for 20BB.

Given any increase in the minimum buyin, some % of bad players will simply decide that they are risking too much and will opt not to play. Is this really want you want, bad players leaving? Maybe you should also consider moving up where players respect your raises.

If a short-stacker is bad, the good players obviously profit. If he is good, good players benefit from the SS not using his skill to learn to play with larger stacks.

I've been shortstacking on and off for 4 years. Up until a few months ago, I always bought in for 20BB. I then started buying in for 40BB, and guess what? My winrate has doubled. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.