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Old 11-09-2007, 08:56 AM
Fluffy_Shark Fluffy_Shark is offline
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Default Re: Massive Hero fold

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We need at least 33% equity on the flop if we want to cap

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Why 33%? There are 4 to the turn, so hero pays 25% of the pot. If he gets back more than those 25% on average capping shows profit.

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Old 11-09-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: Massive Hero fold

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

740,460 games 0.046 secs 16,096,956 games/sec

Board: 3c 9c Jh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.906% 23.56% 00.35% 174421 2590.00 { QcTs }
Hand 1: 33.156% 32.84% 00.32% 243161 2347.33 { Kc2c }
Hand 2: 33.785% 33.24% 00.54% 246154 4007.33 { KdJd }
Hand 3: 09.154% 08.56% 00.59% 63384 4395.33 { random }


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kabooom and u have less equity.

what i want to say: to take 2 random hands is pretty ... stupid?
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: Massive Hero fold

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We need at least 33% equity on the flop if we want to cap

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Why 33%? There are 4 to the turn, so hero pays 25% of the pot. If he gets back more than those 25% on average capping shows profit.

-Fluffy_Shark

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You canīt count Heroīs BB, since itīs no profit. Hero is risking 1 BB more on the flop to possibly win 3.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:32 AM
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Default Re: Massive Hero fold

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We need at least 33% equity on the flop if we want to cap

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Why 33%? There are 4 to the turn, so hero pays 25% of the pot. If he gets back more than those 25% on average capping shows profit.

-Fluffy_Shark

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You canīt count Heroīs BB, since itīs no profit. Hero is risking 1 BB more on the flop to possibly win 3.

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LOL
we need at least 25.00000000000000000001 equity
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:36 AM
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what i want to say: to take 2 random hands is pretty ... stupid?

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"Stoving a unrealistic best-case scenario"

"Button and SB range are much stronger than "random" after CC the flop." [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Just wanted to point out that even if SB and Button are total idiots - we donīt have enough equity.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:37 AM
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dude in your example we have enough equity.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:44 AM
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25% xerber. Not 33%

Pretty basic stuff
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:51 AM
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Oh good lord I no way fold this. Is this a joke? Sets, Same straights. I'd call that for a quarter of the pot size.

Did you REALLY fold this?!?! How does the turn tell you he has a flush draw? Why cant he have QT?

Edit: I misread the hand. Ok - nowhere near as bad as I first thought, but I still call.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:10 AM
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If you can say with 99% certainty that he has the flush then I guess its a fold, but if your say 96% sure then its a call.

I think in the long run without a definitive read (only bets with stone nuts that this is a call. If you get some other calls you actually need to be right less than 4%
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:26 AM
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yeah u guys are right, donīt know what i was thinking
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