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Old 09-06-2007, 07:48 PM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default Live 75/150 bottom two

Live semi private Crazy Mike game. Has been 4 handed most of the night, I'd say BB's PFR is around 10% in this game (tight passive). Though postflop he is a bit more normal aggression wise though very straightforward and not a bluffer.

I've CRed the turn probably 5 times in the last hour and always shown a monster hit on the turn. Though recently I did semibluff raise the BB with 32o (don't ask) on the turn and showed the bluff when he folded the river.

Crazy Mike open limps on button, I complete one chip with 64s, BB raises we both call and I'm scared.

Flop is QT4 two tone not my suit, BB bets, Mike folds, I call.

Turn is a 6 and puts second flush draw out I CR he 3 bets very confidently.

How many bets do I want to go into the pot now and how best to make that happen?

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Old 09-06-2007, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

The minimum, and by check calling? lol, call me unimaginative but that's my recommendation.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:07 PM
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i think if he puts in another raise somewhere you lose but you have enough hand that you want 2 more bets going in (especially since you just showed that bluff). i'd call the turn 3-bet, make sure i don't get counterfeit on the river and c/r again.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

Even if behind, he has a million outs. Equity not that good. Call and check call.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

Part of me says you want 3 more bets going in, which means you basically have to call, checkraise the river, and fold to a river 3-bet. This plan also allows you to bail if the river brings a horrible Q or T.
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

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Part of me says you want 3 more bets going in, which means you basically have to call, checkraise the river, and fold to a river 3-bet. This plan also allows you to bail if the river brings a horrible Q or T.

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Since he's always betting the river here I think I agree w/joker. I'd want to 4 bet the turn though b/c I think you have the best hand. His range is heavy toward AA, KK, and AQ although TT and QQ are also possibie. You def want 3 more bets going into the pot, the only question is the best way to do it.
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:46 PM
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His range is heavy toward AA, KK, and AQ although TT and QQ are also possibie.

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Given that this is 4-handed and DD has an aggressive image (whether he has the goods or is bluffing, he likes raising the turn), villain's range is a bit wider than this IMO.
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

Gas. I mean, do you really need to call anymore if he freaking 5-bets?
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:02 AM
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Checkraise the river is better than 4 betting the turn and folding to a 5. You can still fold to a 3 bet and you save the hastle of the board killing your hand. Your description of this guy though doesn't seem like the type to 3 bet for a free SD OR 3 bet the turn with one pair. I guess you have to decide then how his psyche is after seeing you get out of line. In other words, is he angry or tilty? Did he seem very pissed whe you showed him the old 32o?

Who was it?
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: Live 75/150 bottom two

I'm confused here by these responses

he is passive + you have only shown down monsters with your turn checkraises = you are probably behind here and should not 3 bet

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