I think I found a spot for a free SD raise

[boc4life]

PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

River: (12 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 12 BB


SB's check/3-bet 3 bet on the flop pretty much tells me Ad or a monster. Furthermore, even if villain has a monster like a set or two pair, he probably has to respect the flush flop. Villain does not appear to be overly aggressive or good

[secretprankster]

Seems like a straight value raise to me.

[joop]

I prefer to just call down in these spots. Given that villian is not overly aggressive, I think you are usually behind with just 1pr. The pot is 9BB when he leads the turn, so it will cost you 2BB to see SD and win 10BB - maybe you are good more than 20% of the time for a +EV calldown. I'd hate to have him 3bet with just a diamond on the turn and have to fold, or get donked into on the river when a diamond comes and the pot is 12BB - since a fold would probably be bad given you're HU.

[Scary_Tiger]

Value bet river. He'll call you with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] all day.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

You should be taking one of these 3 lines in this spot.

1) Just calling down.
2) Raise/folding the turn and value betting the river.
3) Calling the turn and raise/folding a blank river.

I hope you understand that one of these three lines has to be better than the line you took, and that is why your free showdown raise is incorrect.

[HOWMANY]

Standard value raise on the turn. What happened on the river?

[jstill]

TP does not equal fsdr

[sharpie]

Seems like an easy calldown to me without more of a read, those who think it's a turn raise and river bet, what am I missing?

[danzasmack]

sharpie i don't think you're missing anything. This isn't a fsdr by any means. I don't like to pop the turn because i know nothing about this guy and have to call a 3-bet, esp. in this game.

Turn raise is great for "Well he either has a monster or a draw..." changing to "he has a draw" to river [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] "here comes a sick bluff" to "he 3-bet. Maybe 3-bet fold to a cap with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]" to "20k hands stats post - what are my leaks?"

[HOWMANY]

People have 87 no diamond, play it like this and then pay me off all the time.