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Old 07-19-2007, 10:23 AM
ryanj247 ryanj247 is offline
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Default FT 100NL 6max - best plan to get away from a moderately strong hand?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $103.50
BB: $140.40
UTG: $113.00
CO: $276.60
BTN: $33.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, CO folds, BTN calls $1.00, Hero calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($4) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $13.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $34.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $139.40</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $104.90 returned to BB

Pot Size: $73.00 ($3 Rake)

not sure what people think of this preflop, but the two limpers were my two fishies, and i've been working on completing more in the SB with semi-playable hands as i've found many of the big winners in this game are doing a lot of that.

the BB looks to be a very solid player. 16/12 and a solid winrate over 2k datamined hands. we have no history. when i bet and he made a tiny raise, alarm bells went off in my head. i really thought about just folding the hand right there, but that seemed too weak.

so i thought about calling and reevaluating on the turn. i really can't explain why i didn't feel this was the correct play. it just didn't "feel" like a good spot for that. if you agree, could you explain the correct thought process and rationale for reaching that conclusion?

i finally ended up deciding to reraise planning to fold to a push. in the heat of the moment i just decided to use the 2/3 button of the betpot script.

so, the first question is whether this was a good plan?

the 2nd question is: what's a good way to quickly determine the right amount to raise to in my head in a spot like this while i'm timing down?
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:37 AM
reef2287 reef2287 is offline
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Default Re: FT 100NL 6max - best plan to get away from a moderately strong han

you played fine, you reraise showing your strength and he pushed with obv a better hand
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: FT 100NL 6max - best plan to get away from a moderately strong han

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obv a better hand

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no
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: FT 100NL 6max - best plan to get away from a moderately strong han

Could be something like AsTx.

I like a fold here though, either way its a coinflip.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: FT 100NL 6max - best plan to get away from a moderately strong han

Isn't calling after his raise better? As played, fold looks good.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: FT 100NL 6max - best plan to get away from a moderately strong han

why is that no-- who reraises all in without a better hand unless its a 10 which is highly unlikely
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: FT 100NL 6max - best plan to get away from a moderately strong han

im not giving flush draws great odds to draw out and it also makes it a easy spot to push turn if no one reraises you all in, with no information on villian i have to fold, but your ss with only 70 left, this gives you almost 3-1 to call and being shortstacked, i don't think i'm getting away from it-- i didn't realize your short stack
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: FT 100NL 6max - best plan to get away from a moderately strong han

This is why I hate completing in SB with trash. Although technically it is not a bad play because of the pot odds, it is so difficult to play hands like T5hh OOP when you hit big. You rarely win a big, but often lose big.

Maybe I am an uber-nit. But I fold here almost every time.

As played, I think it looks pretty good. I would reraise to about $40 on flop, but against the push, I think we are beat and can fold.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: FT 100NL 6max - best plan to get away from a moderately strong han

I fold preflop, you have very little if any edge playing T5s from the worst position at the table. You hit 2 pair here and you don't beat anything. FWIW I like the 3-bet and the fold but I hate preflop.
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