Do I fold this? When?

Adam Stewart · #1 04-20-2006, 07:55 PM

Button is 47/9/0.5. No reads on SB. 

Can I fold this? When? I know the river is a very probable fold, but I can rarely bring myself to do so, seeing as tehre are only two possible Aces left in the deck, and villains could have been on flush draw the whole time too. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (9 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

NLSoldier · #2 04-20-2006, 07:57 PM

I think the flop bet is pointless.

The Bryce · #3 04-21-2006, 12:35 AM

The river. Flop bet's no good. He's so passive that you don't need him to raise in order for him to define his hand. Check and call twice, fold if he value bets and you don't improve.

Subfallen · #4 04-21-2006, 03:08 AM

Yeah, flop bet no good b/c you don't fear giving a free card when you're ahead, and you always pay two bets when behind.

As for the river, u think a passive player is bluffing all three barrels into 2 opponents 10% of the time here? Um, no. And combinatorically he's just as likely to have an A as a Q b/c you have one of them. Absolute worst hand he has is KQ. EZ fold.

Surf · #5 04-21-2006, 03:57 AM

I think bryce summed it up perfectly. Villain will define his hand by whether or not he bets all 3 streets, and you've got a ticket to the river anyway so the flop bet doesn't provide any benefit.

Definitely fold the river.

Surf