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Old 08-01-2007, 07:12 AM
Haplo Haplo is offline
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Default Typical Bluffing situation: How many of you bluff here...

Opponent is 14/0/1 in 83 hands

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
6 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($8, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($8, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: $16

How many of you bluff here in this situation? You only have to be right 33% to break even betting 1/2 the pot. Does anyone bet more as a bluff (say the pot or 3.4 of the pot)?
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:17 AM
Klompy Klompy is offline
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Default Re: Typical Bluffing situation: How many of you bluff here...

You get looked up here more then 66% of the time imo. The only draw he could have involves having a 4 or a 5 and both of them are obv calling, other then that he looks you up with an ace which is what he prob has. I'd only bluff here if I knew he has a history of floating me with p,p's under an ace in situations like this, even then I wouldn't be shocked if he called with a lot of pp's.
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:21 AM
ToomuchCoffee ToomuchCoffee is offline
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Default Re: Typical Bluffing situation: How many of you bluff here...

If you want to bluff, the turn is the place to go. After you checked turn, villian is pretty sure you donīt have the A and no card helped you.
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:26 AM
HesseJam HesseJam is offline
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Default Re: Typical Bluffing situation: How many of you bluff here...

Very difficult to say. I'd say you wonīt lose much EV if you always check behind instead of bluffing.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: Typical Bluffing situation: How many of you bluff here...

you get looked up often.
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:58 PM
Makonnen Makonnen is offline
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Default Re: Typical Bluffing situation: How many of you bluff here...

Bluffing here would be a larger flop bet and/or a 3/4 bet on the turn. Once you get to the river, I think its -EV.
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Typical Bluffing situation: How many of you bluff here...

this is one of the worst imaginable spots to bluff
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: Typical Bluffing situation: How many of you bluff here...

This is a horrible spot to bluff.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Typical Bluffing situation: How many of you bluff here...

No, I prefer to light a money on fire than bluffing here. It tilts me less.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: Typical Bluffing situation: How many of you bluff here...

Weak flop bet and check on turn is almost impossible to bluff the river and make it profitable. SB has an A more times then not here. Don't waste your money.
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