($27) KQ flops OESD and two overs

[taipan168]

Opp's stats 24/11/2.1 over 260 hands. What to do against the flop check/minraise?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t1455)
Hero (t3320)
SB (t1320)
BB (t880)
UTG (t2040)
UTG+1 (t1360)
MP1 (t1405)
MP2 (t1720)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, SB calls t75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t210) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t140</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t300</font>, Hero ????

[sence25]

If I bet the flop, I get it in here.
Checking behind can't be that bad tho, hits lots of his range and you got so many outs.

[eurythmech]

I think we need to shove here.

[TruFloridaGator]

Decent hand sample and vs a small aggro factor villain: Looks like a lot of strength. I like calling since we're deep.

[sence25]

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Decent hand sample and vs a small aggro factor villain: Looks like a lot of strength. I like calling since we're deep.

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Our deepness doesn't really matter since SB is not deep.
I really like a checkbehind on the flop,
but as played we get the odds to get it in against some random J.

[mondonman]

I check the flop.
As played it really depends on what villain´s c/r here. Is there a possibility you are ahead (98s,Q9s)? Since I do not think you get him to fold it is close $EV-wise. I call and see a turn.

[TruFloridaGator]

Sure it does, we're calling off a smaller % of our stack.

[sence25]

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Sure it does, we're calling off a smaller % of our stack.

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Well, the "we're deep and thus just call"-argument is usually valid in cases where we can avoid to play for stacks or draw cheaply.
Villain's raise basically commits him.
I don't think we can just call and give him the chance to get out of the hand if we hit.

[mondonman]

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[Villain's raise basically commits him.
I don't think we can just call and give him the chance to get out of the hand if we hit.

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If he is committed he is not letting this go.

[TruFloridaGator]

Get out of the hand? He almost certainly has a monster. My deep stack comment has nothing to do with playing for stacks or drawing cheaply because obviously he isn't deep.

We're in position and a)could hit our draw or improve our hand and b)could get a free turn if he slows down.

Shoving is really bad, IMO.