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08-13-2007, 10:32 PM
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limped bvb, fd and gutter, raise turn?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
UTG ($200) MP ($172.80) CO ($225.65) Button ($259) SB ($188) Hero ($200) Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: ($4) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4. Turn: ($12) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $52 is raising here good? i fold out a king.. maybe some draws unless he pushes over, forgot his stats. since its a limped pot i tihnk calling is better here. 
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#2
08-13-2007, 10:40 PM
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Re: limped bvb, fd and gutter, raise turn?
you have 12 outs max, your turn equity is not amazing......I don't think its good enough to raise for value, esp since villain's pot size bet on the flop and turn says he's protecting something he likes. I'd need a read to determine how much fold equity I have before raising the turn here. Also, that's a pretty large raise in position I think....
why does it say 3 players on flop and turn?
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#4
08-14-2007, 12:03 AM
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Re: limped bvb, fd and gutter, raise turn?
pf is fine, i typically raise but whatever.
i would typically raise the flop. and decide on the turn if i bet or not (though usually check). calling is okay too i guess. turn is fine...though i think there can also be merits to calling as well. i think its a bit alarming though with villan pot-potting both streets (ie. stronger hand typically) which would probably lead me to call turn most times.
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#5
08-14-2007, 12:04 AM
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Re: limped bvb, fd and gutter, raise turn?
call turn, i dont like raising
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#6
08-14-2007, 12:09 AM
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Re: limped bvb, fd and gutter, raise turn?
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call turn, i dont like raising [/ QUOTE ] Why? Don't you think we can fold a solid portion of his range? He is just mashing the bet pot button and the A is a great double barrel card for him. We really don't want to call turn and then get checked to on the river because we know 5 high isn't winning the pot if we miss, and bluffing when checked to is a such a poor bluff line. We expend the same amount of chips bluffing here and fold out a good portion of his range.
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#7
08-14-2007, 12:15 AM
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Re: limped bvb, fd and gutter, raise turn?
he didnt give any reads. the guy limped in sb leads me to believe he sucks. I wouldn't count on him folding much after his flop/turn bets. Plus it would suck to get pushed off this draw.
flops the place to raise makes it closer that it's full tilt though granted. I just don't like raising vs this guy.
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#8
08-14-2007, 12:16 AM
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Re: limped bvb, fd and gutter, raise turn?
im never bluffing river bdaws. i'm just taking the odds to hit, that's all. abc vs this guy imo
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