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03-24-2007, 08:58 PM
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Debate about batting avg vs OBP
first post in this forum... today at dinner me and a friend were debating whether batting avg or on base percentage is a more valuable stat. care to indulge?
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03-24-2007, 09:04 PM
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Re: Debate about batting avg vs OBP
Batting Average.
The hardest thing to do in all of sports is to hit a pitch where a fielder is not, and that is what BA measures. Getting walks only matters if you can steal a base, else you are just clogging up the basepaths.
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03-24-2007, 09:05 PM
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Re: Debate about batting avg vs OBP
It depends. If you want to know how exactly how often a guy gets a hit, BA is a better stat. If you want to know who is the better player, OBP is the better stat.
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03-24-2007, 09:05 PM
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Re: Debate about batting avg vs OBP
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Batting Average. The hardest thing to do in all of sports is to hit a pitch where a fielder is not, and that is what BA measures. Getting walks only matters if you can steal a base, else you are just clogging up the basepaths. [/ QUOTE ] You forgot this: 
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03-24-2007, 09:10 PM
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Re: Debate about batting avg vs OBP
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Batting Average. The hardest thing to do in all of sports is to hit a pitch where a fielder is not, and that is what BA measures. Getting walks only matters if you can steal a base, else you are just clogging up the basepaths. [/ QUOTE ] I hope this is irony.
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03-24-2007, 09:13 PM
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Re: Debate about batting avg vs OBP
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[ QUOTE ] Batting Average. The hardest thing to do in all of sports is to hit a pitch where a fielder is not, and that is what BA measures. Getting walks only matters if you can steal a base, else you are just clogging up the basepaths. [/ QUOTE ] I hope this is irony. [/ QUOTE ] It's not irony. It's Thayer making fun of Dusty Baker. I think OP is trying to state that BA is a "very valuable" stat as I am the friend he got in the argument with IRL. I was trying to tell him, using GMJ, Juan Pierre and Adam Dunn as examples, that batting average is not a very valuable stat. I tried to explain that OBP and EQA are inherently more valuable and BA really should not be used as one of the primary stats to evaluate a player. (I did, however, concede that a high batting average can be indicative of a good player, but it is very deceptive and can easily mislead someone to think that GMJ or Juan Pierre are good.)
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03-24-2007, 09:15 PM
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Re: Debate about batting avg vs OBP
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[ QUOTE ] Batting Average. The hardest thing to do in all of sports is to hit a pitch where a fielder is not, and that is what BA measures. Getting walks only matters if you can steal a base, else you are just clogging up the basepaths. [/ QUOTE ] You forgot this: [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps I could have thrown in this as well : 
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03-24-2007, 09:15 PM
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Re: Debate about batting avg vs OBP
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Batting Average. The hardest thing to do in all of sports is to hit a pitch where a fielder is not, and that is what BA measures. Getting walks only matters if you can steal a base, else you are just clogging up the basepaths. [/ QUOTE ] I hope this is irony. [/ QUOTE ] It's not irony. It's Thayer making fun of Dusty Baker. I think OP is trying to stay that BA is a "very valuable" stat as I am the friend he got in the argument with IRL. I was trying to tell him, using GMJ, Juan Pierre and Adam Dunn as examples, that batting average is not a very valuable stat. I tried to explain that OBP and EQA are inherently more valuable and BA really should not be used as one of the primary stats to evaluate a player. [/ QUOTE ] At least our bacon-cheese fries were good.
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