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Old 11-01-2007, 12:07 PM
Berky Berky is offline
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Default Middle set on a sick board facing a CRaise-50NL Deep

Player is fishy and a loose. stats
45.6vpip/10pfr/1.55agr fac/ over 350 hands.

I usually shove this so fast but I've been on a sick downswing last two days I'm worried here.
Is this ezy shove?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: $34.25
BB: $86.95
UTG: $47
Hero (MP): $139.95
CO: $48.45
BTN: $19.50

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $1.75, SB folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($5.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, BTN calls $4, <font color="red">BB raises to $14.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero ??
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:13 PM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: Middle set on a sick board facing a CRaise-50NL Deep

If his range is only 2pairs,sets,straights we beat his range
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:14 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: Middle set on a sick board facing a CRaise-50NL Deep

Push all day.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: Middle set on a sick board facing a CRaise-50NL Deep

raiseee this 100% of the time. Based on his stats, he could have J9, 96, 10 10, but also 77, 10 8, 10 7, 78, 10 J
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:38 PM
kaz2107 kaz2107 is offline
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Default Re: Middle set on a sick board facing a CRaise-50NL Deep

so many more combos of 2pair and combo draws here no way i even think of a fold. u crush his range
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: Middle set on a sick board facing a CRaise-50NL Deep

Call and get it in on a safe turn. IF you push here you are going to be losing 150bb to a better hand. Sure he could have flopped a straight and you'll still get stacked on an A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] turn, but your equity against his range will be MUCH better and therefore waiting for the turn is more technically correct.

100bb I probably shove here, but I would still give some thought to the line I have just mentioned.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:39 PM
wingchunflush wingchunflush is offline
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Default Re: Middle set on a sick board facing a CRaise-50NL Deep

I am not folding here, if he has J9 or 69 so be it, we still have outs.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Middle set on a sick board facing a CRaise-50NL Deep

insta-shove
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:47 PM
meleader2 meleader2 is offline
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Default Re: Middle set on a sick board facing a CRaise-50NL Deep

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insta-shove

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i disagree with this big time, look to ama's post
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:48 PM
Shattered Shattered is offline
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Default Re: Middle set on a sick board facing a CRaise-50NL Deep

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Call and get it in on a safe turn. IF you push here you are going to be losing 150bb to a better hand. Sure he could have flopped a straight and you'll still get stacked on an A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] turn, but your equity against his range will be MUCH better and therefore waiting for the turn is more technically correct.
100bb I probably shove here, but I would still give some thought to the line I have just mentioned.

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Wasn't there an enormous thread between Baluga and some regulars in SSNL where it was decided that waiting for your equity to improve on the turn is worse than just getting it in now? I'll try to fish it out as I'm fairly certain that just dumping it in is better.
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