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Old 09-11-2007, 07:37 PM
jfish jfish is offline
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Default Re: tough spot vs wiltontilt

i dont think i can play any river profitably if i call.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: tough spot vs wiltontilt

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i dont think i can play any river profitably if i call.

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Then I guess you should have checked turn aswell [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:41 PM
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i dont think i can play any river profitably if i call.

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that's ok as long as you are making a bigger profit on the turn to compensate
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: tough spot vs wiltontilt

It would be nice to have a feel for your betting frequency in this spot.

It's annoying but I might just fold. When solid players pull a weird/funky line that doesn't seem to represent anything they likely have something.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: tough spot vs wiltontilt

What hands you check behind on this flop? Would he really check with 54/64/44 here? A picked up club draw+combo draw seems more likely?

call and call again on the river if a non club/non str8-card hits.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: tough spot vs wiltontilt

I feel like this is a situation where you're probably ahead of his range, but it's -EV to call. Villain is a good player, he has position, and he's likely to play perfectly against you on the river. I personally prefer a fold.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: tough spot vs wiltontilt

I would never fold here unless I had history with him that suggests that I do otherwise (you said he gets out of line... would he check behind on a flop like that with a hand that beats you? Probably not, IMHO). Most likely worst case scenario is you're up against 54 or 44, and I don't think that's very likely at all.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: tough spot vs wiltontilt

Someone explain to me exactly what it means to say "he's likely to play perfectly against you on the river".
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:01 PM
HOVADOGG84 HOVADOGG84 is offline
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Default Re: tough spot vs wiltontilt

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It's annoying but I might just fold. When solid players pull a weird/funky line that doesn't seem to represent anything they likely have something.

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This is something I've learned the hard way.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: tough spot vs wiltontilt

also, isn't Dazarath the guy that embarassed a fish in a 5/10 live game by making him show his hand after he got stacked ?
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