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Old 11-10-2007, 02:22 AM
ADLinden ADLinden is offline
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Default $16-AJ BB

Is a squeeze play bad here? I'm either push or shove, so how bad is a shove. Button had been playing a lot of hands.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t395)
UTG+1 (t1425)
MP1 (t2410)
MP2 (t3050)
CO (t450)
Button (t2700)
SB (t1285)
Hero (t1785)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t400</font>, SB calls t350, <font color="gray">Hero </font>
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: $16-AJ BB

any reads?
without any reads I'd say it's a bad spot to squeeze for the following reasons.

-usually 4x from the button w/ these stacks is not folding.
-if we get button to fold SB is not folding because of the odds they'll be getting.

now I'm not sure how light button and sb are raising/calling here for this to be a rather value shove than a squeeze, but I assume we'd have to include A9,AT and lots of small pairs for this to be a +EV shove.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: $16-AJ BB

i also would like it more if button made it 300, youre very likely to get called by one player at least here and im not sure how far ahead of ranges you are, but AJ would probably hit the value spot. I'd imagine its a close push if they are your average donks at this level. I'm definitely shoving AQ.
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:11 AM
eurythmech eurythmech is offline
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Default Re: $16-AJ BB

Almost all players you raise 4bb here are artards who think "the more I raise, the more likely they are to fold", and subsequently raise more with their weaker hands.
People do this all the time, which amazes me.
SB's call is also so weird, really hints towards a weak player. I can see this push being good against some players.
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