$16 - KK, ace hits for a change

[mattiesmat]

I did not want to scare them both away by squeezing preflop, so I raised to 600 and hoped at least 1 would call.
Then an ace flopped and the short stack pushed.
Can I assume one of them has an ace and fold the flop?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) by Hand Converter CG

MP1 (t1700)
MP2 (t2170)
MP3 (t2225)
CO (t1005)
Button (t1295)
SB (t945)
Hero (t1460)
UTG (t1365)
UTG+1 (t1335)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls t125, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, MP1 calls t450, SB calls t450.

Flop: (t1800) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t345 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds, MP1 calls t345.

Turn: (t2490) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t2490) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2490

[RexWoo]

I'd call SB bet on the flop, fold if raised by MP1.

[EDIT] I mean most of the time one of them has an Ace, but these are too good odds to fold.

[babaorumi]

I think to it's pretty sure one of them as an ace, maybe both. I would fold, like you have played

[eurythmech]

I'm with Rex on this one.

[Takeover_inc]

I think i would of shoved pre flop.

i hate the idea of putting 600 of my 1400ish stack in pre. If you shove you pick up 7bbs with out a fight most of the time and sometimes you will get called when you are way ahead.

As played i would call sb and call if MP1 shoved just because of pot odds. Then say gg and open another sng.

[eurythmech]

I think shoving pre is good for protecting weaker hands we might shove with.

[TruFloridaGator]

SB is calling very often if we shove, so get it in. Not only do you risk an A flopping but you miss out on value sometimes as well.

[mattiesmat]

I think we lose value by shoving.
Non of them were regs and shoving has more FE.
At least MP1 will fold after squeezing a lot and I see (donk) SB fold as well.

[TruFloridaGator]

The SB calls so often when we shove &amp; folds to the big RR when he isn't, so we do lose a lot of value by not shoving. If he called the RR, he is calling the shove.

[mattiesmat]

Easy to say after the hand is done.
I am still pretty sure donks call a raise easier when they have some money in the pot than a shove for their whole stack.