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Old 11-03-2007, 04:18 PM
AceofSpades AceofSpades is offline
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Default HERO 3-bets, and it gets sticky...

Villian is frequent button raiser...

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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BTN: $81.50
Hero (SB): $107.80
BB: $26.40
UTG: $98.50

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11.50</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $8

Flop: ($24) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, BTN calls $14

Turn: ($52) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($52) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $27</font>, Hero calls $27

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Old 11-03-2007, 04:26 PM
Chicago Twister Chicago Twister is offline
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Default Re: HERO 3-bets, and it gets sticky...

i like every street
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: HERO 3-bets, and it gets sticky...

I don't like the flop bet size, except for that, all good
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:33 PM
Chicago Twister Chicago Twister is offline
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Default Re: HERO 3-bets, and it gets sticky...

yeah id prb bet a little more too actually
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:37 PM
XHitman014 XHitman014 is offline
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Default Re: HERO 3-bets, and it gets sticky...

He's a frequent blind stealer but you have no other reads? I don't like PF unless you have some idea of how he plays...everyone opens the button light.

I bet more on the flop but play the rest pretty similar I guess. His bet on the river is a little scary...hard to put him on a strong hand the way he played it.
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:39 PM
Imrahil Imrahil is offline
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Default Re: HERO 3-bets, and it gets sticky...

Not sure what we beat on the river. I mean I can't see him vbetting QJ here very often. And there aren't many draws on the flop.
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:41 PM
Chicago Twister Chicago Twister is offline
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Default Re: HERO 3-bets, and it gets sticky...

Hero checked twice, lots of weaker hands could either vb at the end or turn thier hand in to a bluff. This is in fact one reason why hero should check the turn.
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: HERO 3-bets, and it gets sticky...

I would bet a little more pf and more on flop, rest is fine.
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: HERO 3-bets, and it gets sticky...

What 3bet-calling range did you put him on?
If it's the "default" TT-QQ;AQ it's pretty much JJ/QQ on the river so a call there is fine
Not sure if I like the turn check given his possible range
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: HERO 3-bets, and it gets sticky...

flop bet size is fine imo.

I could go either way on the river depending on reads/flow -- it would really help to have an idea of how light he is calling 3bets with position. Also, can he vbet this river with QQ? Without a read, I think it's probably best to just let it go. If you have any reason to believe that he could be "value"betting less than QQ, or turning a weak made hand into a bluff, then it obviously shifts over to a call. TBH though, his river bet-sizing doesn't look at all like a made hand turning into a bluff.

If you don't have a good enough feel for how this guy plays, then I don't think you should be 3betting this preflop in the first place.
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