What is his range for check/raising this flop on this board?

[Mench]

AK TJcc QJcc. fold. what did he have?

[erc007]

If he's decent/good: pair+FD, or a combo draw (FD+gut-shot.) I think he has to lead with any strong hand (ie. TP/2pair/99.) KxJc;KxQc and QcTx;QcJx prob make up a pretty big part of his range here IMO.

[ThePershore]

Most probably AxQc, AxJc, KxQc, less likely QxQc/JxJc. AA/KK/99/AK possibly.

Unless he's a massive spewtard you're smoked.

[TheFoxNL]

i think villian is scared
the 33k shove in 5k pot kinda shows that
i dont think villian has clubs maybe 1
i think he knew that if he betted out you could raise him and he would have to fold

so maybe thats why he decided to check/raise you to give you the hard decision

but still its a very hard call you would have to believe villian has no ace no set
if villian does have an ace youre drawing dead most times

hard to put a villian on a hand as it could be KK as much as KQ as AJ

[Pokerfarian]

Lot's of things he could have. 2 pair or better -- A9, AK, sets could be played like this. Fairly rare for a flush to play this way. Any decent or fairly bare Qc (e.g. decent = QcA, fairly bare = QcJ), a good Jc (e.g. JcK). Possibly AQ,AJ no club.
I'd weight the range towards hand that want you to fold (so mostly semibluffs, mostly your ahead) or perhaps very vulnerable hands (A9? perhaps) but there's a lot of hands you lose to & I don't think you have enough equity to call

[fees]

check this flop imo, you can't really get paid so you bet to protect but you miss value from worse hands and you run into situations like this from time to time.

[BarryLyndon]

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check this flop imo, you can't really get paid so you bet to protect but you miss value from worse hands and you run into situations like this from time to time.

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I actually like this line and use it a lot on draw heavy boards like this. This is especially in position, whereas if a 4th club hits and he fires, you are almost sure that you are beat anyway and you can easily be taken off the best hand. You actually want to go to showdown cheapily in this hand. Also, he will have a much harder time raising you off your hand on the turn with one card to go.

Barry

[Rupert]

Checking would be bad, as you have give up on any club turn. I think he check folds a lot given how scary it is so a bet prevails imo

[Sherman]

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If he's decent/good: pair+FD, or a combo draw (FD+gut-shot.) I think he has to lead with any strong hand (ie. TP/2pair/99.) KxJc;KxQc and QcTx;QcJx prob make up a pretty big part of his range here IMO.

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This was what I was thinking. If he has AK, why would he let me have a free shot at a flush? If he has a set, same thing. Both are terrible plays if he has any real holding.

So, I reasoned that his most likely holdings were hands with a single club (i.e. QQc, AxQc, KxJc, KxQc, QcTx, QcJx).

I was surprised when I called and villain showed AhKh. I guess that's what I get for assuming my opponents have a clue. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Sherman

Edit: BTW, the reason I bet is pretty obvious. If he has an underpair and 1 club, I can't give him a free look at the turn either.

[ChipSpeak]

Really interesting hand Sherman..