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Old 11-24-2006, 01:00 AM
Crashem Crashem is offline
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Default NL600$ AK river push with flush draw against donk

Villain is Happyman on stars : 46/17/1.7
Seemed to be making moves with nothing against me. Saw him minrasing on the flop awhile ago with nothing.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($354)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($655.90)</font>
UTG ($354)
MP ($777.55)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($600)</font>
Button ($599.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $18, UTG calls $18.

Flop: ($75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $120</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $60.

Turn: ($315) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $78</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $456</font>, BB calls $378.

River: ($1227) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $1227

Is my turn shove reasonable or should I just rather call his bet and wait for the river ?
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Old 11-24-2006, 01:04 AM
PerDoom PerDoom is offline
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Default Re: NL600$ AK river push with flush draw against donk

Fold flop. Even if he has shown to min raise bluff you will never know where you stand in the hand regardless of what comes on the turn. But, if you are that convinced about continuing with the hand, pushing is superior to calling.

Turn, he's giving you odds to chase, and unless you have some history/notes saying he will automuck when he makes this weird small bet, just call.
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Old 11-24-2006, 01:13 AM
Crashem Crashem is offline
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Default Re: NL600$ AK river push with flush draw against donk

Yeah, fold flop is my standard line here always. But he just seemed to be out of line.
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Old 11-24-2006, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: NL600$ AK river push with flush draw against donk

I save the shove for hands you cannot showdown, I dont mind a call on this turn, due to the wierd bet size and the showdown value you may have unimproved.
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