TPTK vs. Trips

[Brizza]

Just a general question. Say you raise with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Get a few callers.
The flop comes A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
You lead out and bet 1/2 the pot, 1 caller, turn comes 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
You bet 1/2 the pot again, the 1 person left in the pot, minimum raises. His stats are average and he is a bit unpredictable, sometimes loose, sometimes tight.

How do you go about telling if he has AJ, trips or A with a worse kicker than K.

What do other people do in this situation?

[El_Hombre_Grande]

What level? NL 10 is a lot different than NL 600.

How big is the pot; how big is the pot in relation to the bet he made?
How much are the remaining stacks?
Who has position?

Without any history, and no read, and no reference to position, looks like you are beat by two pair or trips.

But at lower levels it could be a doufus and at higher ones a play at you.

[Brizza]

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[Albert Moulton]

Assuming that you are playing medium or deep stacks, then bet 3/4 pot on the flop, check/call the turn, and lead the river willing to fold to more than a min-raise. You want to play a small pot, and leading the turn without any obvious draws on the board does not support your goal of playing a small pot.

Otherwise, you have to have a read. On a drawless board vs a tight/straightforward player, his call probably means that you are behind everything except AQ. And his min-raise on the turn probably means you are beaten and you can bet/fold the turn.

But if he's tricky, then that is MORE reason to check/call on the turn instead of bet. So, as played, if you still have lots of effective stacks left, I'd say call the min-raise and c/c the river if you think he'd bluff again with a lot of hands you beat after bluff raising the turn. Alternatively, block/fold the river if he is likely to raise light on the turn, but plays more straightforward on the river.

If the min-raise is a pot-committing raise that leaves you with 1 pot-sized bet left on the river if you call the turn, then FOLD to the min-raise.

If the min-raise is pretty much the rest of your stack, then call. You're already pot-committed.

List stack sizes next time.

[PantsOnFire]

There is no need to bet the turn since you are not protecting from anything. Keep the pot small. A lot of times you are against another A with a lower kicker. You might get value out of him but those times could be offset by betting into a better hand.

Try and play position more. If you don't have position, but have a good hand like AKs, then make your pf bet much larger. And come out with larger cbet. When out of position you want to be most aggressive pf and on the flop to end the hand as soon as possible. If villain is still around, then cool off and go for the best read you can.

[Dromar]

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Assuming that you are playing medium or deep stacks, then bet 3/4 pot on the flop, check/call the turn, and lead the river willing to fold to more than a min-raise. You want to play a small pot, and leading the turn without any obvious draws on the board does not support your goal of playing a small pot.

Otherwise, you have to have a read. On a drawless board vs a tight/straightforward player, his call probably means that you are behind everything except AQ. And his min-raise on the turn probably means you are beaten and you can bet/fold the turn.

But if he's tricky, then that is MORE reason to check/call on the turn instead of bet. So, as played, if you still have lots of effective stacks left, I'd say call the min-raise and c/c the river if you think he'd bluff again with a lot of hands you beat after bluff raising the turn. Alternatively, block/fold the river if he is likely to raise light on the turn, but plays more straightforward on the river.

If the min-raise is a pot-committing raise that leaves you with 1 pot-sized bet left on the river if you call the turn, then FOLD to the min-raise.

If the min-raise is pretty much the rest of your stack, then call. You're already pot-committed.

List stack sizes next time.

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I agree with this. Very well put.