The Office 11/1

[BillNye]

Best episode of recent memory.

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I found Jim's character to be really annoying in this episode, but I can't quite put my finger on why.

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probably because he wussed out at every turn. i can't imagine putting up with any of the [censored] michael and dwight did for a second. i would have sold them the [censored] out for sure. and i would have been pissed off.

everything else was really good, but i found myself shockingly angry for jim.

edit: Reading through the thread I see people like Jim's character in these scenes? WTF? I mean, the entire plot was not only a complete violation of his personal life but dangerous lunacy! And he kind of raises his voice? And that's enough for you?

second edit: i guess it shouldn't surprise me that other people are slower to anger than i am.

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Why does Michael hate Toby so much? I can't think of an incident that would cause Michael to hate Toby in every way.

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Seriously? Toby is the rules guy and has shot down a lot of Michael's crazy ideas and is seen as a killjoy.

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Yeah I think it starts in the casino night episode. Michael wants to have fireeaters or something and boyscouts and Toby won't let him. Then it becomes a running joke.

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It starts in, like, the first episode. "Toby's from corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. And he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family."

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how did that andy scene get cut off. imo best part of the episode.

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i think that was the only time we saw meredith or angela

also, the joke at the end of it was kind of a cheap throwaway-- i mean, if andy's parents are rich enough to donate buildings to ivy league schools, why the [censored] is he a salesman at a mid-range paper company in a mid-range town?

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deleted clips are awesome, 2nd one adds a ton to the ep

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yeah, the second one really needed to be in the episode

(obviously i just got around to all this)

[ardubz]

Pretty sure the Toby vs. Michael thing doesn't stem from any actual event. Michael hates Toby because Toby doesn't report to Michael; Toby reports to corporate. So since Michael can't be the boss of Toby, he hates him. Pretty simple and consistent with a Michaelism.

[Pudge714]

I know they didn't run them last week, but did everyone else find those Bee Movie promos really annoying.

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edit: Reading through the thread I see people like Jim's character in these scenes? WTF? I mean, the entire plot was not only a complete violation of his personal life but dangerous lunacy! And he kind of raises his voice? And that's enough for you?


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But that's pretty much Jim in a nutshell. We liked how it was done because it was done perfectly, not because we think he acted correctly.

[WhiteWolf]

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Pretty sure the Toby vs. Michael thing doesn't stem from any actual event. Michael hates Toby because Toby doesn't report to Michael; Toby reports to corporate. So since Michael can't be the boss of Toby, he hates him. Pretty simple and consistent with a Michaelism.

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My take is that Toby, as the HR manager, is always telling Michael he can't do all of the sexists/racist/ignorant stuff he's always doing. Michael resents that and is taking it out on Toby every way he can.

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