Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Tournament Poker > Tournament Circuit/WSOP
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 11-18-2007, 09:14 PM
Hollywade Hollywade is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,328
Default Re: Freddie Deeb lays down KK preflop in FW WPT

[ QUOTE ]
this hand is getting mucked. no thought required.

[/ QUOTE ]

You are folding the second nuts short handed immediately without even considering it? What are you, a robot? To say that you would not even consider putting it in there with KK in this spot is a bit ridiculous.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 11-19-2007, 01:32 PM
List List is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 184
Default Re: Freddie Deeb lays down KK preflop in FW WPT

If the range is AA/KK, I can't understand how anyone would argue that the TT is closer to a call than the KK. TT is getting a bit worse than 3:1. Deeb seems to have around 900k, so he's getting about 3:1. Vs AA/KK, he's 22.6%, so he almost has it. Obviously if TT is a call for Myung, KK is a call for Deeb. Given that he has 22.6 vs the range, and only needs ~25%, seems like a pretty obvious call if there's even a tiny chance that limper has worse. Even a single combo of AKo, AKs, or QQ- makes this a clear call. It's at worst a slightly bad call, and potentially a substantially profitable call, as such, the correct action seems obvious given that payouts are fairly flat for the next 5 places.

Too many people are obsessed with making "big" folds, when those folds are, at best, marginally good. Obviously this isn't nearly as bad as Hank Azaria folding KK early in the WSOP ME when he was getting correct odds to call even if his opponent could only have AA.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.