4/180, Flopped a set

[omg im l337]

make a cbet. as gobucks said, you MUST build up the pot and not let free hands in.

[JoeyJoJo Shabadu]

Bet the pot. Draw heavy board. Ace will give you action, you may get some draws to fold.

[hagbard celine]

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Bet the pot. Draw heavy board. Ace will give you action, you may get some draws to fold.

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We don't want draws to fold, we want draws to call without the proper odds to be doing so. A PSB accomplishes this, although I tend to not like to hit the pot button. This is a spot where I like to bet ~2/3 the pot, or slightly overbet the pot. Overbetting, IMO, is often taken as a weaker bet than 2/3-PSB. You might get someone holding an A or a FD to try and take the pot from you. But ~2/3 pot is my default.

[Gar Pike]

My thinking is that you should only be checking a flopped set a small %age of the time, to mix up your play.

People never believe you would bet a flopped set, they'll call with just about anything.

On a board like this, I would be happy to take it down on the flop, as, when a better hand becomes possible, I usually do something stupid like set 'em all in with the worst hand.

I hate it when that happens...

Regards

Gar

[ZenMusician]

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We don't want draws to fold, we want draws to call without the proper odds to be doing so. A PSB accomplishes this

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QFMFT!

He's not just spouting fnord people, this seems to be
something some of us forgot a long time ago! NL allows
you to set the "price" of any draws against you.

Of COURSE we want action, we just want that action to
benefit us over time, so make your opponents draw
without the proper odds.

-ZEN

[DeuceSeven]

Anytime you raise and flop a set on an Ace high flop, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet. Lead out for 2/3 pot, Ax is coming along and might even raise you, donks at his level will call you with any draw. You bet not because you want draws to fold, you want them to call getting improper odds. I'll repeat this: if you flop a set in any situation with an A on board (when you don't have AA) bet out every time.

[916greatest]

hella obv you cant check.

obv got to bet any flop.

[ssnyc]

350

[2Fast]

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We don't want draws to fold, we want draws to call without the proper odds to be doing so. A PSB accomplishes this

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QFMFT!

He's not just spouting fnord people, this seems to be
something some of us forgot a long time ago! NL allows
you to set the "price" of any draws against you.

Of COURSE we want action, we just want that action to
benefit us over time, so make your opponents draw
without the proper odds.

-ZEN

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[JoeyJoJo Shabadu]

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Bet the pot. Draw heavy board. Ace will give you action, you may get some draws to fold.

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We don't want draws to fold, we want draws to call without the proper odds to be doing so. A PSB accomplishes this, although I tend to not like to hit the pot button. This is a spot where I like to bet ~2/3 the pot, or slightly overbet the pot. Overbetting, IMO, is often taken as a weaker bet than 2/3-PSB. You might get someone holding an A or a FD to try and take the pot from you. But ~2/3 pot is my default.

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Some people have such bad reading comprehension skills.

SOME draws. For example the ISD. A PSB still gives the FD good enough odds to call (they don't know we have trips) and makes the ISD a bad call. Ace still calls. If you want so much action, bet your weak 2/3, miss value and play 3 ways.

I'm also willing to bet a shove may get called here.

When the [censored] did a PSB become an overbet btw.... sigh.

Quite frankly... does it matter what it is whether 325 or 475... we're putting the CO AI and playing against the BB who has to have hit to conitnue.