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Full Tilt Poker Game #3590092598: Table Larson (6 max) - $10/$20 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:00:05 ET - 2007/09/17
Seat 1: RiverJazz ($1,476)
Seat 2: MSampoerna ($838)
Seat 3: sprediton ($4,015)
Seat 4: PLAYM0NEYPR0 ($3,033)
Seat 5: Grimstarr ($3,229)
Seat 6: Mr Hokus Pokus ($1,422.50)
sprediton posts the small blind of $10
PLAYM0NEYPR0 posts the big blind of $20
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Grimstarr [Ah Kc]
Grimstarr raises to $70
Mr Hokus Pokus folds
RiverJazz raises to $240
MSampoerna raises to $838, and is all in
sprediton folds
PLAYM0NEYPR0 folds
Grimstarr has 15 seconds left to act
Grimstarr has requested TIME

[freeucm]

Flipping for 40x bb against shortie, not even worth it even if against 1010 JJ.

[Daliman]

I don't think MSampoerna is a short stacker. I'd say reshove; if you get RiverJazz to fold, you have odds vs everything but AA, and even if he does call, if neither of them has AA, KK, or AK, you are going to be better than 33% to win the hand.

[Orlando Salazar]

WTF? Fold, ldo! They either both have PP or 1 has a PP and the other has one of you aces.

[freeucm]

1150 pot, 768 dollars to call where we are behind? There is no "pot odds" its like 1.5 to flip for 800 we dont even have invested where we are behind like 8% all the times and about 0.04% we are crushed? Maybe if he had about 15x bb this would be a call.

[Gomer_Pyle]

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1150 pot, 768 dollars to call where we are behind? There is no "pot odds" its like 1.5 to flip for 800 we dont even have invested where we are behind like 8% all the times and about 0.04% we are crushed? Maybe if he had about 15x bb this would be a call.

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[JackAll]

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Flipping for 40x bb against shortie, not even worth it even if against 1010 JJ.

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1150 pot, 768 dollars to call where we are behind? There is no "pot odds" its like 1.5 to flip for 800 we dont even have invested where we are behind like 8% all the times and about 0.04% we are crushed? Maybe if he had about 15x bb this would be a call.

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Love your posts freeucm <3

[Daliman]

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1150 pot, 768 dollars to call where we are behind? There is no "pot odds" its like 1.5 to flip for 800 we dont even have invested where we are behind like 8% all the times and about 0.04% we are crushed? Maybe if he had about 15x bb this would be a call.

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You're kidding, right?


http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3149
pokenum -h qs qd - ah kc
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs Qd 975909 56.99 730541 42.66 5854 0.34 0.572
Kc Ah 730541 42.66 975909 56.99 5854 0.34 0.428

$1946 x .428= 832.88 Call=+$74.88

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=51993
pokenum -h kd kh - ah kc
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Kd Kh 1187967 69.38 509318 29.74 15019 0.88 0.698
Kc Ah 509318 29.74 1187967 69.38 15019 0.88 0.302

1946 x.302= 587.69 Call is -$180.30, also much less likely. I did overestimate the equity in pot vs KK tho, but I still have no problem with this. He COULD possibly even be ahead ( VERY unlikely) or tied (possible).

Also, AK is light-years better than AQ.

[berserk]

wtf shove lol

[freeucm]

Your 14% to loose the hand with AK that is huge in poker, no question this move looses money over and over again for players in poker and it will continue to happen.

14 x 7.6800 (money you put into this put that isnt even invested yet when you are behind, converted into decimal so we can make the percent into a number) = 107.52 %

Thats huge thats like giving away whatever you put in each time u make this call.