Stud high - rolled Fives multiway

[Alchemist]

I'm posting this hand more to assess my thought process rather than the specifics in this particular instance.

My plan from the beginning was to not raise until 5th, unless one or more boards got scary. Or if checked to me on 4th I would bet to ensure at least one bet goes in.

Since the bettor and Seat 8 both caught good cards, I decided to raise in order to try and at least get rid of Seat 8 in case he's on a FD.

If the pot is 4-handed on 4th almost regardless of what their boards are, would it be correct to slowplay it until 5th? Or am I generally better off raising earlier for value and/or thin the field?


7 Card Stud High ($1/$2), Ante $0.20, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.40 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes

4th Street - (5.40 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___calls

5th Street - (6.70 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street - (9.70 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___raises___raises
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls___folds

River - (19.70 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___bets___calls

Total pot: (23.70 BB - $47.40)

[Andy B]

No one is folding a flush draw on fourth street. Would you? I'm fine with waiting until fifth to pop it, and I think that changing your game-plan on fourth is fine too. They've caught good cards, so they're more likely to give you action. Hard to argue with the results, anyway.

[SweetLuckyMe]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm posting this hand more to assess my thought process rather than the specifics in this particular instance.

My plan from the beginning was to not raise until 5th, unless one or more boards got scary. Or if checked to me on 4th I would bet to ensure at least one bet goes in.

Since the bettor and Seat 8 both caught good cards, I decided to raise in order to try and at least get rid of Seat 8 in case he's on a FD.

If the pot is 4-handed on 4th almost regardless of what their boards are, would it be correct to slowplay it until 5th? Or am I generally better off raising earlier for value and/or thin the field?

[/ QUOTE ] If it's the type of game where a king is going to flat call an Ace's 3rd st raise then I like repopping 3rd and hammering away - trying to build a monster pot. I think that in the long-term, in the loose lower stakes games, significantly more chips are won playing these fast from the get-go.

[Brad1970]

At 1/2, I'd step on the gas on 3rd & not let off until I'm stacking their chips 'cause ain't nobody with any resemblence of a playable hand gonna fold.

FWIW, I never slowplay a small rolled hand at this level unless it is a real nitfest.

[PokrLikeItsProse]

At this level, I generally like taking the lead with small rolled up hands because my goal is to get three bets in on fifth or sixth when someone makes two pair.