A2o in CO M of 4, 14xBB

[ZJ123]

check the flop obv

check call allin

c/r allin

whatever

[ZeeJustin]

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M=4.3, ~14bb, 3 to act, somewhat passive table, you have a connected A, shove.

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In terms of shove equity, being connected doesn't make A2 better than A6.

It goes something like:

AT >>> A9 > A8o > A5o > A7o > A6o > A4o > A3o > A2o

in terms of shove equity.

[ZeeJustin]

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With 75 ante, just shove
Its unexploitable and very +EV, i believe

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Technically, it is exploitable, but it's close enough that A4o would be unexploitable in the same spot.

Assuming the people behind me aren't aggressive like in online tournaments, I would raise small and fold to a shove.

If they are aggressive, I would shove, basically hoping that every now and then someone would fold a bigger ace which would be just enough to make it +ev. Calls from KQ and KJ would help too.

[shaundeeb]

easy shove people fold A10 and less here incorrectly and even higher live.

Guys also remember Betgo is a 40+ massive forarm old man at a live event he can shove weaker here then a 20 something tilt box.

[mastr]

betgo,
check it back if he checks flop
if turn brings the 3rd suit we shove when he checks and shove when he bets

if turn is 4,5,6,J,Q,K we bet when checked to shove when bet at

if turn is anything else we check it back if checked to shove when bet

bet if checked to on river, call if bet at

[baltostar]

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M=4.3, ~14bb, 3 to act, somewhat passive table, you have a connected A, shove.

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In terms of shove equity, being connected doesn't make A2 better than A6.

It goes something like:

AT >>> A9 > A8o > A5o > A7o > A6o > A4o > A3o > A2o

in terms of shove equity.

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How does A5o get ahead of A7o ? Because the narrower spread nullifies the kicker advantage for the first time (travelling down from AT) ?

[betgo]

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M=4.3, ~14bb, 3 to act, somewhat passive table, you have a connected A, shove.

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In terms of shove equity, being connected doesn't make A2 better than A6.

It goes something like:

AT >>> A9 > A8o > A5o > A7o > A6o > A4o > A3o > A2o

in terms of shove equity.

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How does A5o get ahead of A7o ? Because the narrower spread nullifies the kicker advantage for the first time (travelling down from AT) ?

[/ QUOTE ]Because you can make more straights, but it is very close.

[sheetsworld]

Assuming you get reshoved 15% of the time with the top 10% of the hands, and asusming that you get called 5% of the time if you open shove with the top 3% of the hands, then open shoving works out to be better than raise folding which is slightly better than raise calling, all of whcih are signficantly better than open folding.


sheets

[curtains]

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Assuming you get reshoved 15% of the time with the top 10% of the hands, and asusming that you get called 5% of the time if you open shove with the top 3% of the hands, then open shoving works out to be better than raise folding which is slightly better than raise calling, all of whcih are signficantly better than open folding.


sheets

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I'd either open raise or push, and also these calling ranges that are given (3% of hands) seem unrealistically tight.

Most of the time I'd open raise, but really depends on the players and etc. Against good players I'd just go allin. Actually I lied, most of the time I'd go allin [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Those are big antes.

[mastr]

playing a hand faceup profitable implies an unexploitable play

saying something is an unexploitable play does not mean you could turn it faceup profitably...

DUCY PEOPLE?