NL $100...big check re-reraise w/ tptk

[Mr_Donktastic]

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($213.50)
UTG ($121)
UTG+1 ($99.90)
MP1 ($66.85)
MP2 ($184.80)
MP3 ($42.90)
CO ($50)
Button ($87.30)
Hero ($104.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, Button calls $1, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $70</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, CO folds, Button goes all-in, Hero calls remaining $17.30.

Any thoughts? Button is semi-loose/agg/agg.

Results to follow...

[flow void]

depending on who limped I sometimes raise this pf

i would bet pot on this flop

if I were to check it I would fold to the bet and raise

[kslghost]

Definitely bet out here. Let's say you bet, CO raises, and button reraises. This is such an easy fold. When they bet and raise in front of you, you *might* be ahead, but it will probably cost a stack to find out, and that's a bad situation.

I personally think this is a fold, possibly a call which is still bad. But I think a raise only will get called by much stronger hands.

[Mr_Donktastic]

I concur...

Sometimes I will raise AQ preflop from the SB.

Most of the time I will bet the pot on the flop...but I thought there was a good chance the aggros behind me would 1) bluff or 2) make a legitimate bet with QJ-type of hand...so in my mind I was c/r when it got back to me.

The bet/raise certainly made it interesting though...

[kslghost]

Bet raise in front of you in an unraised pot is generally a clear fold.

[abarrenfuture]

Lead the flop, as played it looks as if you're crushed. Easy fold IMO

[45suited]

You have TPTK in a 5 way unraised pot, followed by a pot bet and a 4X raise = easiest fold ever.

[orange]

jesus, extreme overplay with TPTK imo. unless you have a great read that button is a moron, i probably fold to button's reraise. given that you 3-bet, calling the push is a no brainer.

i also lead flop initially. leading this flop is much much better than c/r. doesnt blow it up as much, and your almost guarenteed to play for your stack if you c/r this flop whereas if you lead, you have the options of calling/folding/etc on the flop or future streets depending on your opponents/etc.

[stinkpaw]

I'm not a big fan of your check raise here. Let's say button didn't reraise &amp; just called $5, then you spring your c/r and make it $20 to go. You are just building big pot with TPTK OOP. You'll have to bet most of your stack on the Turn and Call the rest off on the River even if a scarey card hit.

What was the rational for your line?

[kslghost]

And a check-raise here completely blows up this pot faster than we can control. Let's say you check-raise normally, to like 18 dollars or so. You have to follow up with about a 30 dollar bet, and anything on the river is a reasonable bet. Even if you check on the turn, you will get bet into a lot of the time by anyone who calls.