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Old 08-14-2007, 06:04 AM
Guitierez Guitierez is offline
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Default Red cowboys on a spade flop

Hey all,

this is my first post in this forum, I have no clue of NL cash games, whereas I played some NL tourneys (online and live). I'm a LHE microstakes grinder.

This was the very first hand in a home game with friends, we were havin a good time, lots of booze and fun. We all had €20 which is like 1.2 times $20 in chips in front of us.

So, I was UTG and dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I raised the big blind of .20 to €1, to my surprise all 8 opponents called. The flop came

Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 players, €9)

Now, in LHE I'd probly just bet, fold if it's two back to me, and if it's one raiser HU, I'd have to play poker, I guess.

What's my plan in this crazy game? Is an equity edge of 3% enough to bet for value, and if yes, how much?

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

494,862 games 20.469 secs 24,176 games/sec

Board: Qs Js 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 13.741% 13.39% 00.35% 66256 1745.78 { KdKh }
Hand 1: 10.870% 10.54% 00.33% 52183 1611.28 { random }
Hand 2: 10.710% 10.39% 00.32% 51417 1584.69 { random }
Hand 3: 10.768% 10.45% 00.32% 51714 1575.36 { random }
Hand 4: 10.810% 10.49% 00.32% 51930 1567.94 { random }
Hand 5: 10.843% 10.53% 00.31% 52105 1552.86 { random }
Hand 6: 10.696% 10.38% 00.32% 51373 1560.36 { random }
Hand 7: 10.785% 10.47% 00.32% 51799 1575.69 { random }
Hand 8: 10.775% 10.46% 00.32% 51758 1567.03 { random }
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:27 AM
calcbandit calcbandit is offline
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Default Re: Red cowboys on a spade flop

lol i cant beleive im saying this but is just check folding in an 8 way pot out of line? You can't really bet enough to make good draws fold since you have to be scared of two pair or somesuch, maybe somebody even flopped the flush. Such a bad board for a 1 pair hand in an 8 way pot.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:05 AM
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Default Re: Red cowboys on a spade flop

Check/Fold is probably the best line against 8 players, honestly.

With that many callers, I'm guessing that several of them called with random suited cards. So you could already be drawing dead. There are also all sorts of possible straight draws and two pair.

If you are ahead, you're not much ahead. And there are almost no safe Turn and River cards for you. Get out now.
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