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Old 10-26-2007, 11:37 AM
mondonman mondonman is offline
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Default $22 betting flop with underpair unraised pot

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2010
UTG+1: t1880
MP1: t4880
CO: t1330
Button: t1550
SB: t3590
Hero: t4760

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t300)</font>, 3 folds, SB calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t500)</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t600, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t400</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t800</font>, SB folds, Hero?

UTG+1 VPIP ~33 filtered. His 9.5BB open-limp is not necessarily a monster.

I guess I need to let this go. Do you like betting the flop?
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: $22 betting flop with underpair unraised pot

I like it, but easy fold after the raise [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: $22 betting flop with underpair unraised pot

I think I pot this pre
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: $22 betting flop with underpair unraised pot

Seems fine. I'm ok with the pf check. You're oop tho, so given your read, i'd prefer a pf push. His vpip suggests he's a horrible donk.
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: $22 betting flop with underpair unraised pot

I like a push pf as well, SB is hardly ever calling it so you don't even really have to worry about him.
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:40 PM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: $22 betting flop with underpair unraised pot

PF to 1K to look nice and strong, I am just squeamish about pushing with my stack + SB so big, but there really isn't anything wrong with that; [censored] it, just push. 88 is way to strong here PF given the situation to just check.

flop is OK, easy fold after min raise I think (slow played monsters, sets, overs to flush much larger part of range than 77).

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Old 10-26-2007, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: $22 betting flop with underpair unraised pot

push pre. I doubt SB limps anything here that can call a shove vs you (and be ahead), even like 99/TT/AQ cannot possibly call your shove here. I would like it a lot more if SB wasn't so deep but I think shoving is still the best here.

As played I think it is ok too. Both checking option and shoving pre are reasonable, though push might be slightly better.
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: $22 betting flop with underpair unraised pot

just raise to 800 pre. pushing with 20bb at this point is not good imo.
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:28 PM
TimWakefield TimWakefield is offline
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Default Re: $22 betting flop with underpair unraised pot

I agree with PF push, your 88 is quite possibly good against the limper (and you probably have a surprising amount of fold equity against him), and SB is calling you pretty much never.
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