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Old 11-28-2007, 12:36 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: Do you shove now on this turn?

Raise bigger pre-flop especially with a caller in between.


As played I probably check behind on the turn and shove the river.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: Do you shove now on this turn?

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Raise bigger pre-flop especially with a caller in between.


As played I probably check behind on the turn and shove the river.

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What does this delay do for us?
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Do you shove now on this turn?

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Raise bigger pre-flop especially with a caller in between.


As played I probably check behind on the turn and shove the river.

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What does this delay do for us?

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makes it look like a bluff and the calling station a reason to call id guess.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: Do you shove now on this turn?

I don't see what the problem is here.. Villain is loose/bad. We have an over pair in a reraised pot. Get your money in.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:04 PM
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I don't see what the problem is here.. Villain is loose/bad. We have an over pair in a reraised pot. Get your money in.

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He's loose, but I don't know if he's bad yet. And loose doesn't always mean loose in 3betsville. What do you think a loose/bad villain is calling the flop with other than 99+?

I mean, I see a loose/bad villain calling a 3-bet with a hand like AJ or KQ or something, and then folding the flop, but once he calls he's gotta have something.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: Do you shove now on this turn?

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Raise bigger pre-flop especially with a caller in between.


As played I probably check behind on the turn and shove the river.

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What does this delay do for us?

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Gives him a chance to bluff on the river if he called the flop with a whiffed hand or to valuebet a worse hand. Also IMO makes it more likely that he will call the shove with like 88/TT (unless a broadway lands on the river). The board is very dry so no need to worry about that....and if he happened to hit a J he's calling the turn or the river and same for if he has us beat.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Do you shove now on this turn?

He seems like he has a pocket pair or like AK/AQ/AJ...shove it, he'll probably call pretty light. Earlier I was thinking checking behind or betting low might be the best choice, but then we're definitely giving him a cheap chance to hit an A or K, which screws us. Get it in while you're most likely ahead.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:29 PM
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He seems like he has a pocket pair or like AK/AQ/AJ...shove it, he'll probably call pretty light. Earlier I was thinking checking behind or betting low might be the best choice, but then we're definitely giving him a cheap chance to hit an A or K, which screws us. Get it in while you're most likely ahead.

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You think he's peeling with AK or an underpair here? Why?
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Do you shove now on this turn?

More preflop. Check the turn and get it in on the river. Pushing the turn is fine as well, you're often ahead but I can't see too many hands he paying off with and he's not likely to have many outs so checking is slightly better imo. Had the board been more draw heavy or the turn been a low blank pushing the turn would have been a must.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Do you shove now on this turn?

Raise more preflop. Not a lot, but I think 6$ would make stack sizes more comfortable.

Bet more on the flop. This is one of those situations where if his hand is strong enough to call 11$, it can call 14$.

As played, I bet about 1/2 of my stack on the turn and hope I can convince him to call me down with a 77/88/TT type hand. If he has JJ, so be it. I'm a little afraid that if we outright push here, the only thing that calls would have us beat in spite of villian being a retard.
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