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Old 10-11-2007, 01:44 AM
The Don The Don is offline
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Default Re: 4 bet pot with QQ, completely lost

In like 250k hands of 6max NL cash I have still yet to see a TAG flat call a 4 bet with AK.

At best I'm throwing a couple combos in there.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: 4 bet pot with QQ, completely lost

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if he folds AK preflop, rikki, we should like K52 better than 952.

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this i agree with, because my check on this flop, to most people will at least get them thinking

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I think he was going for the more obvious less combos of KK thought.

Also, I like calling pre, esp if he's been 3betting light.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:46 AM
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And wtf at giving your opponents a huge edge by calling the 3bet with QQ - especially if they are light 3betting

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although not necessarily applicable to this hand, I think that calling qq here against most solid tags will result in a -EV play since they are probably only cbetting flops when they have you beat unless either you or them are huge spew tards.

and for some reason i don't feel that anyone NEVER 4 betting QQ here is a spewtard...
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:50 AM
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although not necessarily applicable to this hand, I think that calling qq here against most solid tags will result in a -EV play since they are probably only cbetting flops when they have you beat unless either you or them are huge spew tards.

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Wtf this is soo wrong on soo many levels.

Are you really serious about calling vs TAGs being a -EV play?
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:51 AM
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Are you really serious about calling vs TAGs being a -EV play?

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-ev in comparison to 4 betting
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: 4 bet pot with QQ, completely lost

i mean, if you are calling pre and check raising any non A/K flop, then its essentially the same as 4 betting preflop since they wont be calling unless you are beat
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: 4 bet pot with QQ, completely lost

i think he has a k here like always...
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:55 AM
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lol at ppl saying c/f the 952 flop.

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qfmft ....
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: 4 bet pot with QQ, completely lost

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i mean, if you are calling pre and check raising any non A/K flop, then its essentially the same as 4 betting preflop since they wont be calling unless you are beat

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Wtf at them only calling a cr on the flop if you are beat, and its not the same as 4betting preflop since you pick up their cbet monies often when they have air.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: 4 bet pot with QQ, completely lost

imo u guys need to stop thinking everyone plays and thinks like "we" do. people will play ak like this plenty.. im getting this in on a raggy flop everytime. and i also check a raggy flop to induce.
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