20k Guaranteed, hands that make me ponder

BaHorst · #1 10-31-2006, 02:57 AM

No reads because there was a big stack just raising every hand. Or I was at a table for only a shortwhile. Sorry, but that's just the way the cookie crumbled this tourney. Thanks for ANY input. I love tourneys, i'm tryin to improve.

Is this a resteal spot? How much of a raise? My stack really doesnt give me much of a choice, so I just went w/ my gut. We also JUST popped the bubble, so I assume people started to loosen up, so I could be ahead?

#1

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t500/t1000
(Ante: t125)
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t16545
UTG+1: t27583
MP1: t39238
MP2: t13585
CO: t19520
bahorst: t10675
SB: t9655
BB: t21526

Pre-flop: (8 players) bahorst is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, CO raises to t3250, bahorst raises all-in t10550

#2

With two EP limpers, I can expect a slightly larger range from the raiser. Such a juicy pot, I definitely want a peice especially since my stack is dwindling. Is my thinkin wrong? wait for a better spot?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t250/t500
(Ante: t50)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t11800
UTG+1: t14084
MP1: t18160
MP2: t11180
MP3: t13645
bahorst: t3625
Button: t7694
SB: t10305
BB: t9602

Pre-flop: (9 players) bahorst is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t500 (pot was t1200), MP1 folds, MP2 calls t500 (pot was t1700), MP3 raises to t2500, bahorst raises all-in t3575

#3

Betting into two people, so I assume a pocket pair, but the bet is so weak. Is this a grow some balls scenario, or since I know i'm beat, easy laydown?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
(Ante: t50)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
bahorst: t5225
UTG+1: t8844
MP1: t11705
MP2: t7635
MP3: t2925
CO: t9184
Button: t24235
SB: t13230
BB: t11795

Pre-flop: (9 players) bahorst is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
bahorst raises to t850, 2 folds, MP2 calls t850 (pot was t1900), 4 folds, BB calls t450 (pot was t2750).

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t3200, 3 players)
BB checks, bahorst checks, MP2 bets t1200, BB folds, bahorst folds.
Uncalled bets: t1200 returned to MP2.

Results:
Final pot: t3200

#4

Lastly, just a stack size question. I have about 13.5 BB's. Def not much, but I sltl wanna mix it up, and I think I still slightly have the chips to do it. Plus we are on the bubble, so I tried to rep a big hand from EP. Spewage?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
(Ante: t75)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t10530
UTG+1: t11120
bahorst: t9250
MP2: t7544
MP3: t9405
CO: t8702
Button: t10900
SB: t12934
BB: t19710

Pre-flop: (9 players) bahorst is MP1 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, bahorst raises to t1225, 4 folds, SB raises to t3000, BB folds, bahorst folds.
Uncalled bets: t1775 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: t3725

stsharp413 · #2 10-31-2006, 03:39 AM

1. Your raise is hard to judge without any type of read on the player. But your stack is likely not big enough to generate the proper fold equity to make the play correct.

He's getting 2.2-1 odds to call you here and unless he's got a weaker ace, I think he's priced in to call. K-J, K-Q type hands are between 3-2 and 2-1 behind.

2. EDIT: I originally said fold, but upon further review pushing isn't a bad idea. His big raise could well be a steal attempt with a marginal hand and there is a chance you're ahead here. While the odds say you're likely in a race, being a 2-1 dog here isn't the worst scenario. You'd need to push, so go for it.

3. UTG, please for your sake raise more. This isn't the worst hand to make a stand with, and you want to thin the field out here. Don't assume pair, either. For such a small raise, weaker hands become playable especially if your opponents aren't ultra-tight.

As for post-flop, I don't mind the check. The 10 is definitely a worrisome card. I also doubt the last player will put in a bet if he's afraid of you slow-playing a big hand.

4. Muck, muck, muck. You're in early position with garbage and this isn't the time to get cute. Perhaps in a later position you could get away with this on the bubble, but not here.

BaHorst · #3 10-31-2006, 04:09 AM

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1. Your raise is hard to judge without any type of read on the player. But your stack is likely not big enough to generate the proper fold equity to make the play correct.

He's getting 2.2-1 odds to call you here and unless he's got a weaker ace, I think he's priced in to call. K-J, K-Q type hands are between 3-2 and 2-1 behind.

2. EDIT: I originally said fold, but upon further review pushing isn't a bad idea. His big raise could well be a steal attempt with a marginal hand and there is a chance you're ahead here. While the odds say you're likely in a race, being a 2-1 dog here isn't the worst scenario. You'd need to push, so go for it.

3. UTG, please for your sake raise more. This isn't the worst hand to make a stand with, and you want to thin the field out here. Don't assume pair, either. For such a small raise, weaker hands become playable especially if your opponents aren't ultra-tight.

As for post-flop, I don't mind the check. The 10 is definitely a worrisome card. I also doubt the last player will put in a bet if he's afraid of you slow-playing a big hand.

4. Muck, muck, muck. You're in early position with garbage and this isn't the time to get cute. Perhaps in a later position you could get away with this on the bubble, but not here.

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For hand #3, say I did make a standard 3x BB raise. Same action tho, and same flop. I check and there's another weak bet to me. The fold is the right play, correct?

stsharp413 · #4 10-31-2006, 04:17 AM

3xBB is even still far too little. Make your decision now, because the one after the flop is just a nightmare spot to be in, especially on a short stack. You may just have to make your stand with two overs and a backdoor flush draw (assuming you have two live overs).

You could make a case for pushing all-in here. Being the first player in on a short stack is critical. You only worry about AA, KK, QQ, or AK. I'll take my chances that I'm not against one of those hands. If any other hand wants to call and double me up, then bring it on. If you don't go all-in raise 5xBB. If a guy just calls instead of re-raising, then he's nuts because he's stuck to the pot.