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Old 10-22-2007, 05:57 PM
favreftw favreftw is offline
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Default do i fold this preflop

say i open-raise in mp with AQo, and button cold-calls, and then sb three bets and bb caps.

i have lots committed so do i call here?
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: do i fold this preflop

I think that AQo is too weak to cold 2 call and is almost always dominated.

What do u do here with AQs ?
Im thinking that it could be call cus its probably that pot will be 4 handed and we play good multiway hand with great impied odds.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: do i fold this preflop

reads help, and game limit (i'd be less likely to fold at .05/.1 and more inclined to at 2/4, obv). assuming like 1/2 with solid opponents i fold aqo and call aqs.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: do i fold this preflop

welcome to the micros, I'd start with trying to put SB and BB on a hand range and that starts with reads or on the absence of that HUD stats. In the absence of those Ill take a guess as to what the average unknown at a particular limit is like.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: do i fold this preflop

You have lots commited? I don't get that comment.

Pot size is mostly everything you worry about in these situations (some reads of the opponents are important sometimes, too). You are getting immediate odds of 11-2, plus, maybe 4 more. You are most likely dominated, but with those odds I would call...
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: do i fold this preflop

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i have lots committed so do i call here?

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First, stop thinking like this. The money you've put in the pot is no longer your money, it belongs to the person(s) that win(s) the pot, minus rake.

Second, you can't make this decision without any reads. For instance, if BTN is a calling station and the blinds are both wearing straightjackets, I curse the dealer for putting a cap on betting. If, otoh, BTN is a reasonable player, SB is a nit, and BB is a TAG, I drop this like it's hot.

Tell you what: come up with some reads on the blinds, then come up with hand ranges for them based on those reads, then do a Bayes analysis on those ranges, and then we'll talk further.
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:22 PM
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Pot size is mostly everything you worry about in these situations (some reads of the opponents are important sometimes, too).

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This is exactly backwards.
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: do i fold this preflop

with button certainly calling 2 i dont think a call would be bad.

that said if your postflop edge is lacking you have heavy rio with such a hand so folding is fine too
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: do i fold this preflop

I would call all day. You lose somtimes if you hit, but its a big pot and you don't have to win too often to show a profit. Only fold if you both 3bettor and capper are very tight.
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