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Old 05-04-2007, 08:59 AM
Dr1Gonzo Dr1Gonzo is offline
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Default 2 hands - 8/16

HAND 1
Villain is a lag (30VPIP/7PFR/44SD). The flop raise scares me a bit maybe a set or my reverse implied odds are not good here. How's the line?
Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $8/$16
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls <font color="aaaaaa">(6.5:0.5)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7SB, 7 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls <font color="aaaaaa">(13:1)</font>.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls <font color="aaaaaa">(7.5:1)</font>.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls <font color="aaaaaa">(9.5:1)</font>.

Results:
Final pot: 10.5BB
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HAND 2
Villain is fairly standard (29VPIP/6PFR/45SD). Usually only raises high cards preflop. I think I'm ahead the whole way until the river and then the board pairs so I'm probably behind if he has high cards. Check/fold is an option but he might fold the river if I bet.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $8/$16
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero calls <font color="aaaaaa">(1.5:1)</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls <font color="aaaaaa">(4.5:1)</font>.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.5SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:42 AM
rafiki rafiki is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands - 8/16

Hand one is fine, but expect to lose quite often (obviously)

Hand 2 is interesting. Anyone have a theory about bluffing in small pots ? I'd be inclined to say that while the pot is small, you may have your best shot at bluffing. If he folds his naked A 1 time in 5, you're already ahead. More often then that, and it's even better. So I like the bet.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: 2 hands - 8/16

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Hand one is fine, but expect to lose quite often (obviously)

Hand 2 is interesting. Anyone have a theory about bluffing in small pots ? I'd be inclined to say that while the pot is small, you may have your best shot at bluffing. If he folds his naked A 1 time in 5, you're already ahead. More often then that, and it's even better. So I like the bet.

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Game theory suggests bluffing more often in small pots, the opposite of what most do. Bet slightly less than optimal, as Sklansky suggests, and you make a profit on your bluffs whether your opponent always calls (because his pot odds are not correct) or always folds.

Divide the number of outs which you would value bet and divide that by the pot odds you offer your opponent to call. For a short cut, call each out 2%. You have 5 outs, that's 10%. Your opponent will get 4 to 1, for example, so you bluff &lt; 2.5%. The chance that you are bluffing is more than 4 to 1 against but he is getting only 4 to 1 for the call. He loses.

Picking bluff cards is an easy way lots of people do it. Pick one bluff card for five legitimate outs if the pot offers the opponent 5 to 1 or less.

That's how I do it against most opponents. Against lay down artists bluff more frequently. As soon as you see someone show somebody his big pocket pair, like aces or kings, as he tosses it in the muck, look for all opportunities to allow him the pleasure of making these lay downs. But bluff less frequently against others so that you appear to seldom bluff.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: 2 hands - 8/16

6pfr is more narrow than "high cards"
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Old 05-04-2007, 01:14 PM
Dr1Gonzo Dr1Gonzo is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands - 8/16

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6pfr is more narrow than "high cards"

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Yes, true...but if it was an overpair you'd expect a raise on the flop at least if not the turn also.

I also think some bad players will fold there board 2 pair + their Ace without realising it might make them the winning hand?
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