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Old 11-19-2007, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?

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His range cannot be determined because all hands have odds to call if you only minraise.

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Do you find most $11 players are taking odds into great consideration?

So do you think he folds no hands to the cbet?

Do you think there are no hands he flatcalls with? He's check-called before, as I've said.

Alright let's try this a different way.

What (and why) is your response to villain's raise if you have:
1. 7s8s
2. As9s
3. 55 (one spade)
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?

1. shove
2. shove
3. hmmm...call?
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?

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1. shove
2. shove
3. hmmm...call?

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Reasoning?
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?

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1. shove
2. shove
3. hmmm...call?

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Reasoning?

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for 1 and 2 i say shove because their both in pretty good shape almost always, often >50% making it +EV

#3, i cant fold it to a maniac opponent but am also a little uneasy about shoving it so i'd probably just call and re-evaluate the turn
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?

This is a bluff very often. With you flush draw and the overs, you have already near to 50% equity, add the fold equity and this is a standard shove. With the 55, Im torn between shoving the flop and calling and calling/shoving the turn on a non-spade.
I expect him to bluffshove the turn a fair amount of the time, plus he likely shoves draws that didn't come in and any pair. The only problem is you cannot really call a turn shove when a spade comes, allowing him to bluff you off the best hand.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?

4 5
or two spades.

stuff like that.
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