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Old 02-21-2006, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: 10-25 AJo hand

I would make a check min raise here
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Old 02-21-2006, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: 10-25 AJo hand

nevermind my post, i obviously didnt see you had the Ad, now i like a checkraise allin too
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: 10-25 AJo hand

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I would make a check min raise here

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I honestly do not understand why anyone would ever do this.
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: 10-25 AJo hand

chk...

if he bets biggish (1k+) c/r ai.

If he bets 600 or so i like a c/c and chk river (unless a diamond hits then i open push, but i do this wider than you i'm sure)
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: 10-25 AJo hand

I do not see him having the flush, because the A,K, and Q of diamonds are all out there. Hands that he would call a pot sized raise preflop are small, and I doubt he is calling a pot sized raise with J10d, 109d, or something to that extent, given that you said he was tightish. Checkraising all in seems like a plan to me, if you think he will bet. A diamond on the river doesnt hurt you, unless the board pairs. I cannot see you being behind in this hand on the turn, unless the board pairs, you will win this hand. If your image is aggressive, bet again on the turn and hope he pushes, but checking the turn seems like the better play.
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: 10-25 AJo hand

hoya,

"Hands that he would call a pot sized raise preflop are small"

Even for a tightish player in these games, that can be a pretty wide range.

"I doubt he is calling a pot sized raise with J10d, 109d, or something to that extent, given that you said he was tightish"

Those are among the exact types of hands that a tightish player will call a pot raise w/ preflop.
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: 10-25 AJo hand

If this is a serious post, why did you raise preflop?
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:37 PM
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aba,

Of course it's serious, wtf?
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: 10-25 AJo hand

I'm gonna go ahead and suggest that we don't want all the $$$ going in on this turn. Blah blah, i'm a pussy etc... but his preflop/flop play is as/more condusive to suited diamond connectors than KQ or something of the like. We have the nut redraw here, so obviously we want to see the river. So sak yourself what if he really going to stick in another 2k, into what is now a 1kish pot without a flush. It's pretty rare. So check here, give him a chance to bluff or value bet worse hands. C/r all in is pretty pointless b/c if he calls, he almost always has us unless he played TT weirdly.

If you check call the turn, you hand looks a decent amount like AA or AK, and you might induce him to try and move you off that on the river if he missed with some KJs type hand. By not looking to get it in on the turn, you make it more likley that he pays of with worse hands, potentially lose less when behind, and possibly induce bluffs later.
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:42 PM
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If that is the case, then check calling seems like a better option.
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