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Old 11-12-2007, 07:20 AM
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Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (BTN): $54.19
SB: $13.38
BB: $50
UTG: $110.76
CO: $52.02

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2.25</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $2.25, 2 folds.

Villain here is ~32/15/5 overall - however this session he's playing mcTAGish 22/17/5 and we are about 60 hands in.

I have noticed that Villain is tight from EP and his standard raise from most positions is 4BB+1.

I have no other reads - Hero is playing standard TAG and villain might think I am a touch on the aggressive side.

i) whats he got? (range please not a 1 hand soul read)
ii) what have I got?
iii)what hands do you call with IP here?

I will post the next street a little later once a few people have had a stab at it and then the turn a little later and so on...
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:28 AM
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Taking a stab here just for practice:

i)Since he's tight from EP I would give him a pretty strong hand but one that could be a bit vunarable since he bet a fraction more than his standard bet.
22-QQ A9s-AQs AJo, AQo

ii) Given your nice TAGish stats I would have to say:
34s-JQs 22-88, A2s-A9s, ATo, AJo

iii) Given what I think he has from my first point, I would call with:
22-99, AJo, AQo, A9s, ATs, 78s-QKs
With stronger hands I'm obviously raising.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:28 AM
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i.) He could have a ton of [censored]: 22+,AT+,KQ,maybe suited connectors.

ii.) You could have a ton of [censored]: 22-TT (maybe JJ), suited connectors,AQ,AJ,KQ

iii.) 22-TT(sometimes 3bet TT), suited connectors, sometimes:: AQ, lesser sometimes:: AJ particularly suited, KQs, lesser lesser sometimes:: KQo


Edit: Had 22+ in calling ranges...fixed cause obv some big pairs are gonna be 3bet.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:32 AM
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IMO the ranges here are way too wide from both players to really say with any kind of certainty. I would call here with literally atc planning to take it away against a loose/slagro player who doesnt like to continue or can't handle pressure, and as the villain, if I were him Im happy raising any pair, any high broadway, any suited connector...
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:36 AM
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Yea I really agree with ama. I took a shot but the ranges here are so wide that I don't really see the point....unless you plan to go through each street like this.


If I were villian I could be raising pretty much the range ama said...except I'm not raising all unsuited broadways...like I'm not gonna raise QTo here much.


In hero's spot my calling range is tighter than what ama said....but I kinda think that my calling range pre-flop is generally a bunch tighter than a lot of other people on these boards.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:36 AM
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I should also add that the rest of the table are fishies.

and I have a dose of respect for this villains game - i.e. he is a regular, he has a clue and after a couple of thousand hands in my db he is showing a small profit.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:37 AM
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1) 22+, AK, AQ, and KQ. IMO villain is raising all pair, as he is aggro and must be somewhat of a reg for you to have a current and overall dataset for him. AK AQ and KQ suited or not I think he is opening with UTG as well.

2) We should be calling with a good sized range here. The villain is imo overly aggro with a 5 TAF and will do a lot of the work for us on every street. We have pos on this player, and because his UTG range is tighter than any other opening pos at the table, imo we should be playing a fairly wide range including all pairs, a large range of SCs and suited one gappers, although folding AJ and worse As, as well as KQ and worse Ks.

3)FFS, my mistake, answer to 3 is covered in my 2
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:49 AM
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his range 22+,ATs+,AJ+,KJs+,KQo+ and then a 5% of suited trash/big connectors.

your range 22-TT some SCs, AK/AQ once in a while, AJs, KQs. my range pretty similar but more reraising.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:36 AM
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Hero (BTN): $54.19
UTG: $110.76


Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2.25</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $2.25, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2.

OK so here's the flop.

my reads as a recap:
Villain here is ~32/15/5 overall - however this session he's playing mcTAGish 22/17/5 and we are about 60 hands in. This guy is a winning regular.

I have noticed that Villain is tight from EP and his standard raise from most positions is 4BB+1.

Hero is playing standard TAG and villain might think I am a touch on the aggressive side.



same 3 questions as before:

i) whats he got? (range please not a 1 hand soul read - but the ranges ought to be a little tighter now)
ii) what have I got?
iii)what hands do you call with IP here?

I shall post the Turn later tonight - when I do I will reveal my own hand and ask 3 different questions.
<font color="white">hint:the 3 questions we ought to all ask every hand we play</font>
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:45 AM
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i) Every hand I had in his pre-flop range.

ii) Conceivably every hand I had in your pre-flop range except I doubt you have 99 or 44 and QTc and maybe not KQc,JTc and the like etc.. I suppose AJ, and clubs are more likely than everything else.

iii) Conceivably everything I had in my pre-flop range except 99,44,QTc,KQc,JTc and the like etc. However, this is dependent on how often he c-bets and also how often he'll fire the turn.
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