JJ v. lrr-ing idiot

orange · #1 10-20-2007, 01:21 AM

villan is a tard. he's open limping and overly aggro. he pays off all sorts of hands and isn't smart. he called 2 streets with 2nd pair. hero should be relatively tight.

1/2 6max

$200 effective

PF: tard limps UTG, I raise J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] $10, all fold to tard who reraises to $26. I call $16.

($55)Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
villan bets $55, Hero calls $55.

($165) Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villan instachecks, Hero checks

($165) River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
villan instachecks, Hero...

shove for value? i think his range is like...anywhere from 89s to stuff like 99 to like KK.

ofishstix · #2 10-20-2007, 01:23 AM

i bet 105. and lolwhen he callswiht 88

Casper05 · #3 10-20-2007, 01:23 AM

Shove flop...check river as played.

bilbo-san · #4 10-20-2007, 01:25 AM

Shove flop.

As played shove river.

ikestoys · #5 10-20-2007, 01:26 AM

given desc, i shove

orange · #6 10-20-2007, 01:32 AM

k fine. he had QQ and i lose. freak actually had a hand for once.

Nielsio · #7 10-20-2007, 01:36 AM

I insta-check behind.

nath · #8 10-20-2007, 01:37 AM

Yeah I'd shove
And tbh I think this is one of those rare two-way spots. A villain lrring for value might fold KK and QQ here. A villain lrring because he's an idiot might call with any pair.

Edit: after rereading description of villain I would tend to think of him as the latter

Richie Rich · #9 10-20-2007, 01:41 AM

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he pays off all sorts of hands and isn't smart. he called 2 streets with 2nd pair.

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(I take it he called 2 streets with 2nd pair against another opponent - maybe a LAG or someone who he has some table history with.)

Regardless, with the given info about villain and your tight image, I don't think he is going to call a shove with a worse hand than your Jacks.

Someone who limps UTG and re-raises btf typically has something good, like AA/KK/QQ/AK. If he was holding KK/QQ, then maybe he froze up when that Ace hit the turn; but if he is holding AA/AK/AQ, then maybe he is waiting for you to take a stab at the pot so he can trap you. Last but not least, if he has a tendency to call with second-pair-type hands, then he could very well call your push holding KK/QQ despite the scary Ace on the board. I just don't see how pushing here can be a +EV move.

I check behind.

Casper05 · #10 10-20-2007, 01:42 AM

I don't get the river shove...I don't see a ton of hands he calls with that we beat...did everybody see that he limp/rred?