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Old 09-26-2007, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 foxwoods, do you guys fold this anywhere?

imo you can't fold the turn because sets are discounted because they raised the flop, JT is the most likely hand by a fair bit, you have 9 outs and you're getting 8-1.

river call is atrocious. you are good here pretty damn close to never.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 foxwoods, do you guys fold this anywhere?

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imo you can't fold the turn because sets are discounted because they raised the flop, JT is the most likely hand by a fair bit, you have 9 outs and you're getting 8-1.

river call is atrocious. you are good here pretty damn close to never.

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this guy could EASILY have a set here.

we do not have 9 outs on the turn, we have 3, assuming we are not drawing stone dead.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 foxwoods, do you guys fold this anywhere?

whoops I guess I misread? not sure how I got 9 outs there. turn call is very close and actually probably wrong. but sets are discounted pretty heavily because of the flop raise.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 foxwoods, do you guys fold this anywhere?

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whoops I guess I misread? not sure how I got 9 outs there. turn call is very close and actually probably wrong. but sets are discounted pretty heavily because of the flop raise.

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why on earth do you think they don't raise this flop with a set? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 foxwoods, do you guys fold this anywhere?

I dunno why they don't, but they don't. it's like a disease in this game.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 foxwoods, do you guys fold this anywhere?

I fold on the turn unless I have a read.
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Old 09-26-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 foxwoods, do you guys fold this anywhere?

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This hand perfectly delineates the difference between online and live.

This board is a call down online against your average villain and a fold against your average live one.

Paying off this specific river is probably not a good idea against your average villain anywhere, though.

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I agree, well said.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 foxwoods, do you guys fold this anywhere?

i would lead toward folding turn a little more than half the time, but when that river card hits its a fold %100 of the time.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 foxwoods, do you guys fold this anywhere?

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You are toast on the river so I fold. I might even fodl to the turn raise depending on the player. Why can't Nina post her own hands?

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I was at foxwoods when I asked Babar to post these. Basically I want to read the replies when I get home and not have to make a post and wait. Also its easier. Also Babar [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s me.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 foxwoods, do you guys fold this anywhere?

also, nina's just a girl and the internet is hard for girls!
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