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Old 06-14-2007, 03:27 AM
Yoshi63 Yoshi63 is offline
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Default folded to your SB.... you peel a 22.... what now?

This situation came up in in a $26 tourny on FTP. After the hand I didn't like the way I played it, and started considering other alternatived. I ended up doing some quick calculations, and ended up being rather surprised by the result.

So let's take the following situation:

Reads: Villian is unknown/normal

Hero = 1400, Villian = 1200

Hero posts SB of 40
Villian posts BB of 80

7 folds Hero...?


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Old 06-14-2007, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: folded to your SB.... you peel a 22.... what now?

I call as I don't like building pots out of position with mediocre hands. Although shoving is profitable in a vacuum I think you should wait for better spots to commit your stack.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: folded to your SB.... you peel a 22.... what now?

limp/shove or open shove.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:16 AM
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Default Re: folded to your SB.... you peel a 22.... what now?

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Although shoving is profitable in a vacuum I think you should wait for better spots to commit your stack.

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Can you explain why we want to turn down a profitable situation here? The variance of shoving here I think is actually pretty small, as compared to making margainally profitble calls all-in with a flush draw + BDSD on a flop, for example.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:22 AM
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Default Re: folded to your SB.... you peel a 22.... what now?

I like being the aggressor in meaningfull pots and this isn't meaningfull enough yet. Calling is profitable too as you will be able to pick up the pot a fair amount on the flop/turn. Its too early and the edge is too small for me.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:38 AM
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Default Re: folded to your SB.... you peel a 22.... what now?

But I'm not world class these are just my opinions.
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: folded to your SB.... you peel a 22.... what now?

This really depends on reads on villain imo...

If he's somewhat weak/tight, I'm usually just raising in this spot...

To an overly aggressive bigblind, I'm sometimes just folding, as I do not want to get in a big pot with a marginal holding out of position that early...
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:38 AM
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Default Re: folded to your SB.... you peel a 22.... what now?

I dislike calling. If villain checks, you're going to be out of position against a wide selection of hands. Unless you hit a 2 or the board pairs, you're not going to have much idea where you stand.
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Old 06-14-2007, 08:06 AM
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Default Re: folded to your SB.... you peel a 22.... what now?

Depends ontable history/reads on villain blah blah blah...

I'm calling here hoping to hit a 2, other than that or action from him pre-flop I'm done with it
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Old 06-14-2007, 08:42 AM
Gorvacofin Gorvacofin is offline
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Default Re: folded to your SB.... you peel a 22.... what now?

Aren't you a bit short stacked to be calling for set value?
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