4/180 stealing blinds against aggressive BB

[lemming]

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Do not intercharge me with 'you guys'. I'm a crappy poker player with a negative ROI, not the be confused with other 2p2'ers.

[/ QUOTE ] Well, I post and ask to learn, I'm just around breaking even, making some small profits out of these SNGs so far... And also think about questions other people post (which are often more experienced than myself), it's where you learn most IMO... So I don't mind getting answers from your side as well, appreciate it.


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further, very aggro BB might just as well see this squeeze as irresistable as well as tighten range. so if villain is capable of doing big plays pf i dont think the caller necessarily scares him very much.

[/ QUOTE ] That is what I thought for myself, and just shoved it in...

Turns out this should not be such an easy decision, when I thought this through in more detail... Both BB, who is raising a raiser AND A CALLER, as well as SB, who is calling in front of a maniac BB, could have a very nice hand. If BB does not take the caller into consideration, this HAS to be a call... But if he's a thinking player, this gets more interesting, as he has really been playing very aggressively. Same for SB, if he's a thinking player with a nice holding, he might just smooth call my raise instead of shoving PF.
[Note that I did not say one guy had AA the other guy had KK, I just say theoretically, they could both have monsters, no?]

[kurtkatt]

i dont thinks its bad to consider it at all, but i think that it is probably giving a 4.4s player too much credit that he has both picked up on bb aggressiveness and formulate a plan to try trap him in a big squeezeplay. To that he also gotta have picked up on us being able to look him up light for him to feel comfortable playing anything other than qq+ when we push our stack in also.

[Jolle]

Hmm, true.

But what if we are sure that the SB and BB are thinking players. Does that make this an easy fold, as the SB is now certain to have a good hand?

[kurtkatt]

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Do not intercharge me with 'you guys'. I'm a crappy poker player with a negative ROI, not the be confused with other 2p2'ers.

[/ QUOTE ] Well, I post and ask to learn, I'm just around breaking even, making some small profits out of these SNGs so far... And also think about questions other people post (which are often more experienced than myself), it's where you learn most IMO... So I don't mind getting answers from your side as well, appreciate it.


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further, very aggro BB might just as well see this squeeze as irresistable as well as tighten range. so if villain is capable of doing big plays pf i dont think the caller necessarily scares him very much.

[/ QUOTE ] That is what I thought for myself, and just shoved it in...

Turns out this should not be such an easy decision, when I thought this through in more detail... Both BB, who is raising a raiser AND A CALLER, as well as SB, who is calling in front of a maniac BB, could have a very nice hand. If BB does not take the caller into consideration, this HAS to be a call... But if he's a thinking player, this gets more interesting, as he has really been playing very aggressively. Same for SB, if he's a thinking player with a nice holding, he might just smooth call my raise instead of shoving PF.
[Note that I did not say one guy had AA the other guy had KK, I just say theoretically, they could both have monsters, no?]

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yes that scenario could be, but i dont really thinks its very likely that at least sb has this kinda thought process in a 4.4. As for the range for the squeeze by bb, damned if i knew, but my guess if he is capable of restealing a lot then he is atleast more likely to be able to squeeze here also?