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Old 09-27-2007, 10:10 PM
Guruman Guruman is offline
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Default tough flop spot for staxx

this is my second orbit at the table and villain hasnt gotten involved yet. Any thoughts on his range or my actions would be appreciated.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $44.65
CO: $57.05
Button: $88.65
Hero: $40.65
BB: $21.95

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5.5</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($11.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $23</font>, Hero...
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:41 PM
Jago Jago is offline
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Default Re: tough flop spot for staxx

I dont think it really matters what his range here is, you're not going to make him lay it down.

You have 3rd pair. At the absolute best, he has 2 overs and is just toying with you. Your action is definitely a fold.

p.s. i know you from lhe! (i think)
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:50 PM
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yeah, you know me from limit.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: tough flop spot for staxx

i think we have to fold this hand. hes not gettin outta the way and we dont have a great hand. were prolly drawing to 4 outs cause a 7 could make him a straight unless hes already got it

i fold
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:43 PM
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Button raises to $2, Hero raises to $5.5

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yeah, you know me from limit

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I really thought you'd improve.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: tough flop spot for staxx

you will have the most spectacular time unlearning all these horrible habits that make perfect sense in limit that are completely flawed in NL. In fact, I venture that it is easier to learn NL w/o knowing anything about poker than it is to go from limit to NL (esp if ur full to short)

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Old 09-28-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: tough flop spot for staxx

would just calling pf in this spot give away your hand range (low/mid pp, AT/AJ/AQ)?
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Old 09-28-2007, 12:50 AM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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bad. Don't even like preflop very much. Flop bet is mediocre at best.

pretty terrible to push here.
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Old 09-28-2007, 12:50 AM
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the flop is so troublesome because any response to your action turns your hand into a bluff villain is going to call and if you let him open the action, you're praying he's semi-bluffing because this is one of the few boards I don't like cbetting w/o intentions of overbetting the flop and committing given your stack
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Old 09-28-2007, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: tough flop spot for staxx

Readless I flat PF, no reason to blow up this pot without any reads on villain. If you decide to 3-bet, the 3B and flop bet should be bigger.
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