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Old 11-14-2007, 03:14 PM
sh58 sh58 is offline
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

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Why do i want to shove the flop?

Im so bad at shoving [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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shoving puts your opponent to a decision for all his chips, yo.

plus its fun
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

Shove anywhere
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:21 PM
Clever Nickname Clever Nickname is offline
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

Shoving the flop is a bold and aggressive play which puts your opponent on a decision for all his chips, ldo

But seriously, you have too much equity here to just call the flop, and then what, check/fold a blank turn? Or, if you're calling all in on a blank turn, why not just shove the flop yourself and maximize your fold equity?
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

I'm also all aboard the shove flop suggestion. I'm guessing this guy had kings and was scared you set queens. At any rate, if you shove flop you can take the pot down right there vs a nit & you have 12 outs vs kings.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

also by not shoving you may not get action when you hit a diamond
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

Shove flop or turn.
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

yah standard flop shove
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:28 PM
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Shove anywhere

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Old 11-14-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

Hey guys, i 've been reading 2+2 for some time now, but i decided to make my first post

cant u ad AA, KKor QQ to his range (hard to say since we dont have numbers on villain)
and if u add these to his range, is it still a push, since the A and K are no longer outs

feel free to correct me, i'm here to learn
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:11 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

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Hey guys, i 've been reading 2+2 for some time now, but i decided to make my first post

cant u ad AA, KKor QQ to his range (hard to say since we dont have numbers on villain)
and if u add these to his range, is it still a push, since the A and K are no longer outs

feel free to correct me, i'm here to learn

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AA/KK/QQ is def in his range, but our equity vs his range when called combined with our folding equity is still easily enough to push since there's also JJ/TT/AK and som other hands in there.
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