im like a value detective lol!

[0evg0]

been looking for something to post lately

tonight's stuper

button has been fairly active and seems competent, two hands before he put 3bet button allin from bb with A3o for 14xbb or so. that's all i got.


PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2571)
UTG+1 (t1500)
Hero (t3945)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t1555)
CO (t1540)
Button (t5304)
SB (t2940)
BB (t3490)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, CO calls t300, Button calls t300, SB calls t250, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t1300) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero ???

edited title because i guess stacks arent foremost importance here

[Fireball_AA]

Why not bet 850, call CO, fold to Button and SB?

[woodguy]

I don't hate a c/f.

Too many players won't lay down 55-TT (99obv) or a 9 on this flop.

If you bet and get called by button are you jamming turn?

If not I just c/f.

Too many players for me to try to bluff em all out.

Regards,
Woodguy

[0evg0]

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Too many players for me to try to bluff em all out.

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ya, but we do have a pair. dont forget that.

[woodguy]

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ya, but we do have a pair. dont forget that.

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True, but I'm weak tight in this situation.

[Foucault]

Open fold pre-flop, check-fold flop. CO cold called 20% of his stack, I doubt you're ahead of his range pre-flop. If it were just him on the flop, you MIGHT have the equity to get it in, but with other callers as well, I think you're screwed.

[0evg0]

oh yea, peeps check out pf too.

i didnt love it, but i figured there were enough decent sized stacks (esp button) that it was close enough, and nlhe rewards bold aggr moves so you know how i did

[Eagles]

This isn't a value bet.

[0evg0]

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This isn't a value bet.

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no [censored]. and it's not a bluff either.

now that we've gotten that out of the way, does anyone's play differ here if they have 88 instead of 44

[Che]

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nlhe rewards bold aggr moves

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Generally speaking, open-raising small pairs in EP is chip-spewing agg, not bold agg, IMHO.

I agree with Woodguy's assessment only I would take it a step further and say if you are not willing to bet flop, push turn on this flop, you should fold preflop.

If you are willing to bet flop, push turn on this flop, you are going to lose a lot of chips when you are dealt small pairs in EP.

Later,
Che