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Old 11-15-2007, 09:03 PM
rhymenocerus rhymenocerus is offline
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America, worlds #1 police state....
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:57 PM
Splitrig Splitrig is offline
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FL:
In Florida gamma-hydroxybutyric acid GHB (Georgia Home Boy in Florida) is specifically listed as a Type 1 drug. The big difference in FL is that you have to have between 1 and 5 kilograms for it to be considered "trafficking" GHB. FL does have a mandatory 3 years in prison and $50,000 fine for GHB. The weight is measured in what ever form it is in. This is a very nasty drug (15,600 overdoses), and yes, it is the most common substance used in drug-facilitated sexual battery.
I may have missed it, but how did you get caught? It is very hard to get someone on it?
Also, Living the Martial Way, goes against laying there and taking it, was the book a new attitude for you?
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:03 PM
todd1007 todd1007 is offline
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escobar, you sound like a winner.

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GO back to micro-stakes DDY.

I got caught with somewhere near 250,000X more than dude did, he went to prison and I was chillin at home.. Id say I came out ahead there... I am simply saying, he got GUTTED and any lawyer would have fought that.... Especially given the circumstances around the arrest.. Horrible Horrible beat.. He literally went to prison for a few dollars worth of GHB.. FWIW, most GHB, when actually broken down is GBL or similar compunds, which is MUCH more difficult to prosecute as it isnt technically scheduled ( or at least wasnt).. It looks like him and lawyer just threw their arms up in the air and said UNCLE.. I have never in my life heard of anyone going to prison for simple possession of GBL... I used to be in the bodybuilding " industry" and know of AT Least 40 people that got caught receiving shipments of GBL and GHB from U.K.. They were sent in quarts ( not like this guys 2-3 doses), and recieved from UK, so importation laws were violated too.. I think of the 40 or so people that I know who got caught, like 1 of them went to prison, and when he got raided the found an UG anabolic steroid lab.. He did like 8 months, and probably had somewhere around 2-3 million in anabolic raw materials in his house..

How you can manage to go to prison for a couple bucks in what MAY have been GHB without fighting it is beyond me... Thats remarkable... It doesnt really surprise me though, pretty much everyone pees their pants any time a cop is involved... They are always looking to " make a deal" or snitch on people..


Sorry you had to endure prison for something so petty, but your lawyer shgould have his license revoked.

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many small time criminal defenses attorneys roll over for local prosecutors when they are representing ill-informed clients. its a quid pro-quo that goes on all the time. these attorneys purposely make bad deals so that the prosecutor's record becomes impressive/overinflated. often these attorneys are former assistant prosecutors themselves, who have close personal ties to the prosecutor.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:10 PM
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Just spend well over an hour reading this thread and the links it contained.

Thx for a great read!

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Took me like 4 or 5 hours to read this, but it was worth it.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:52 AM
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my god this was an amazing thread. thx for bump.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:00 AM
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FL:
In Florida gamma-hydroxybutyric acid GHB (Georgia Home Boy in Florida) is specifically listed as a Type 1 drug. The big difference in FL is that you have to have between 1 and 5 kilograms for it to be considered "trafficking" GHB. FL does have a mandatory 3 years in prison and $50,000 fine for GHB. The weight is measured in what ever form it is in. This is a very nasty drug (15,600 overdoses), and yes, it is the most common substance used in drug-facilitated sexual battery.
I may have missed it, but how did you get caught? It is very hard to get someone on it?
Also, Living the Martial Way, goes against laying there and taking it, was the book a new attitude for you?

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wow...holy late bump

anyway, someone stole some GHB from me and overdosed on it, because they had no clue. As he was suffering in the ER, his friends told where they got it. Dumbasses only stole one of five water bottles full. Each water bottle had 17-18 doses. Cops of course get the rest. Automatic schedule X felony charge for me. Got dropped when I pled to the max on the schedule 4 (lowest in IL).
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:28 AM
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FL:
In Florida gamma-hydroxybutyric acid GHB (Georgia Home Boy in Florida) is specifically listed as a Type 1 drug. The big difference in FL is that you have to have between 1 and 5 kilograms for it to be considered "trafficking" GHB. FL does have a mandatory 3 years in prison and $50,000 fine for GHB. The weight is measured in what ever form it is in. This is a very nasty drug (15,600 overdoses), and yes, it is the most common substance used in drug-facilitated sexual battery.
I may have missed it, but how did you get caught? It is very hard to get someone on it?
Also, Living the Martial Way, goes against laying there and taking it, was the book a new attitude for you?

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wow...holy late bump

anyway, someone stole some GHB from me and overdosed on it, because they had no clue. As he was suffering in the ER, his friends told where they got it. Dumbasses only stole one of five water bottles full. Each water bottle had 17-18 doses. Cops of course get the rest. Automatic schedule X felony charge for me. Got dropped when I pled to the max on the schedule 4 (lowest in IL).

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I wondered if you were still looking at this thread. Have a question that doesn't seem to have been answered so far and it's strange becaues it's the first question I thought of.

What are the odds of different kinds of people being raped in juliet if they are in for a full year. E.g., what kind of person is most likely to be raped and what are some generally categories between that and the very very unlikely. The odds will obviously reflect your own wild-ass guess.

Thanks again for a great thread.
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:53 AM
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Since it's already been bumped, no harm in piling on to say this was an amazing thread. I have told real life friends your story because it's that good.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:25 PM
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Hello MyTurntoRaise

I am glad to learn about you and your experience. I read all your responses and must say that many consistent and positive character traits are evident in your reponses.

-You are intelligent, yet humble.
-You seem to have a very good ability to step away from yourself and assess you strengths and weaknesses.
-You still feel that you were overcharged, but you also acknowledge playing with "fire," so to speak, and you don't allow bitterness to consume you. You have taken ownership for your role in this, depsite the fact you were over-penalized.
-The candid remarks and conflicting emotions about your former girlfriend are very interesting, and reveal lots about your character and level of insight. You revealed 4 different perspectives on you/her, but they are all consistent. Not sure if you realized how much you conveyed about your ability to see pros/cons for her side and pros/cons for you.
-You seem to be a very "confident" person in most regards, yet on a positive front you see no need for ego or bravado.

I only mentioned these because I personally took more from how you addressed the questions, and the honesty and openness in which you addressed your situation, than I did from your OP. Collectively, they provided an excellent insight into your character.

I am truly saddened that the employment scenerio for you is impeded by your record, but perhaps your own business or other ventures will prove to be your calling anyway.

Anyway, enough for the kudos, I actually do have a question.

In poker, I always thought some key characteristics a person needed to succeed were.

1. Patience
2. TRUE assessment of strengths and weaknesses
3. Discipline, inlcuding the ability to remain composed through periods of negative runs/bat beats, etc
4. People reading skills.

Do you agree with the above, and if so, how much has your experience with the justice system (including your time inside), helped you to build on or use the above in poker?

ArcticKnight
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:48 AM
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Good thread, OP; though sorry to see you've turned shortstacker.

Anyway, can you elaborate on this as I don't quite get it:
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The only controversy at all was the day before my release from Vienna, I ate in the right side of the cafeteria, which was usually 100% people of color. The guys in my wing, especially the older ones, wanted to have a meal with me.

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